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    Quote Originally Posted by Numinous One View Post
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    I never said it wasn't related to him, stop your bullshit.
    The citizens who live there and Merc himself call it a high tide.

    Meaning it's not just a sudden drowning of the city, it's a gradual process throughout the night
    They're not comparable.
    You tried to claim that Kashima said it was just high tide so that's all it was.

    Merc meanwhile directly said it was his power.

    It's his passive ability. The argument is that his human form passively was already affecting that much and more of water.

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    You tried to claim that Kashima said it was just high tide so that's all it was.

    Merc meanwhile directly said it was his power.

    It's his passive ability. The argument is that his human form passively was already affecting that much and more of water.

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    Yes. It is just a high tide. It's an abnormal high tide as Merc puts it. But it's still a high tide.

    For fucks sake, if the people who live there and experience it every day refer to it as high tide, by default that means it's a gradual process because the rising of the tide is a gradual process over 6 hours.

    It doesn't matter if it's passive or his human form when it takes hours for a tide to reach its peak.

    Yes, it's secondary evidence that he can manipulate a shit ton of water. But it doesn't mean anything when it comes to manipulating a large mass of water instantly.

    The timeframe difference between the two feats is literally a difference of over 4000 times longer for drowning the city.

    It's completely irrelevant to the calc, drop it. Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numinous One View Post
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    Yes. It is just a high tide. It's an abnormal high tide as Merc puts it. But it's still a high tide.

    For fucks sake, if the people who live there and experience it every day refer to it as high tide, by default that means it's a gradual process because the rising of the tide is a gradual process over 6 hours.

    It doesn't matter if it's passive or his human form when it takes hours for a tide to reach its peak.

    Yes, it's secondary evidence that he can manipulate a shit ton of water. But it doesn't mean anything when it comes to manipulating a large mass of water instantly.

    The timeframe difference between the two feats is literally a difference of over 4000 times longer for drowning the city.

    It's completely irrelevant to the calc, drop it. Christ.

    Yes, it's more water than being used in the calc being passively affected. Meanwhile Rampaging dragon Merc.


    Nor is it some unbelievable thing when Eileen and Acnologia both have greater range than this.

    It is for the calc just further evidence of the range of his influence, Numinous.



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    When did Acnologia show better range ? Can you stop with the range crap ? It's irrelevant





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellinger View Post
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    When did Acnologia show better range ? Can you stop with the range crap ? It's irrelevant
    I meant to clarify I meant for Acno that his was sensory wise.

    Now stamp this calc and let the threads begin



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    I meant to clarify I meant for Acno that his was sensory wise.

    Now stamp this calc and let the threads begin
    Or do the sensible thing and wait for further clarification of the situation from the following chapters.
    I know you get some sort of self validation for these power levels, but you're currently pushing for the highest end interpretation of the feat when there's other possible interpretations and we've yet to see the full scope of it.

    When doubt exists calc won't be accepted until that doubt is appeased.

    Anyway I'm done here, I'll check back in two weeks or whenever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numinous One View Post
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    Or do the sensible thing and wait for further clarification of the situation from the following chapters.
    I know you get some sort of self validation for these power levels, but you're currently pushing for the highest end interpretation of the feat when there's other possible interpretations and we've yet to see the full scope of it.

    When doubt exists calc won't be accepted until that doubt is appeased.

    Anyway I'm done here, I'll check back in two weeks or whenever
    Except we have panels and statements that show it. Lel. If things come out that contradict it then so be it, but until then this is fine and enough to pass through.


    >Tries to take personal shots.

    Your desperation and petty behavior is showing.

    And no, I'm going for the accurate number instead of just doing the laziest method while wanting max effort for something you like. LEL. \


    You've already been disproven with canon consistency, panels, and events.

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    So where did you get a time frame





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    So where did you get a time frame
    Time for a fish to fall from the height of the water to the sea bed.



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    Except we have panels and statements that show it. Lel. If things come out that contradict it then so be it, but until then this is fine and enough to pass through.


    >Tries to take personal shots.

    Your desperation and petty behavior is showing.

    And no, I'm going for the accurate number instead of just doing the laziest method while wanting max effort for something you like. LEL. \


    You've already been disproven with canon consistency, panels, and events.

    Concession accepted
    Alright one more.

    Literally nothing I've said has been disproven.

    But fine, I'll stop being so lenient in regards to this entire thing lol.

    Post on panel proof that the entire sea was lifted.

    Post on panel proof that he is actively condensing the water.

    Post on panel proof that the fish hit the ground after the water had finished being raised.

    Failing to do so will be a consession on your part that you don't have the required evidence and that your calc is largely based on multiple assumptions.

    Put up or shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numinous One View Post
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    Alright one more.

    Literally nothing I've said has been disproven.

    But fine, I'll stop being so lenient in regards to this entire thing lol.

    Post on panel proof that the entire sea was lifted.

    Post on panel proof that he is actively condensing the water.

    Post on panel proof that the fish hit the ground after the water had finished being raised.

    Failing to do so will be a consession on your part that you don't have the required evidence and that your calc is largely based on multiple assumptions.

    Put up or shut up.
    >Tries to claim no time frame
    >Time frame is found
    >Tries to claim Merc isn't the one creating the abnormal tides
    >Is shown otherwise


    Lel


    Do the characters stating something and then immediately showing a dry sea floor amount to nothing?

    Lel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    Time for a fish to fall from the height of the water to the sea bed.
    What the fuck is that





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellinger View Post
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    What the fuck is that
    Free fall of the fish



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    Free fall of the fish
    What if the fish was already at the sea bed ? You literally try to use the most weird time frames





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellinger View Post
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    What if the fish was already at the sea bed ? You literally try to use the most weird time frames
    Are these fish immune to the movement of water?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    Are these fish immune to the movement of water?
    So Merc has some sharks up there with the water too ?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellinger View Post
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    So Merc has some sharks up there with the water too ?
    Maybe if they haven't fallen

    On a side note that'd be really cool



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    I'll look at this thread later Rax, just got home from hospital (had surgery) and im not caught up with FT




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichiryuu View Post
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    I'll look at this thread later Rax, just got home from hospital (had surgery) and im not caught up with FT
    Are you okay?!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    Are you okay?!
    Yeah, still have to recover for a while though




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