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    Why Is Flat Earth and Anti-Vaccine Mentioned in the Same Breath?

    So whenever someone wants to take jabs at conspiracy types they'll usually just brush it off and poke fun with some flat earthers and anti vaxxiners joke, as they're both seen in the same light, also the same thing for water supply tampering (particularly in America)

    but why

    One can be disproven by things like varying star constellations, Foucault pendulum, the existence of time zones, shadows and sticks, the center of gravity, etc., and would have just about no benefit to make it worth all the impossibly high effort you'd have to go through to cover up

    The other is a perfectly viable way to widely administer whatever unsavory substances for whatever reason to a large population that a particularly corrupt group of people may want to take advantage of either for a profit or some other motive, say, actually destroying people's immune systems to cripple their bodies and make them more dependent on whatever poison you keep pumping out and thereby ensuring endless revenue, or something

    Like, people are already well aware of the shady business practices of large corporations and global conglomerates, massive pharmaceutical companies and food chains especially

    Can you really take a look at things like Project MKUltra which was literally the US Government illegally testing drugs for the purpose of mind control on its own unknowing citizens and completely rule out vaccines being used covertly for an eerily similar purpose?


    they're just really not on the same level of absurdity
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    Because believing both are equally retarded.
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    I must say i am baffled by the fact that someone would date Tifa, or that someone like Tifa is able to put a dude in a friendzone. Like are you really so depleted on the good looking girls? In my country no one would ever even look at her twice. We have 2/1 (Girl/Boy) ratio, and most of the girls are decent looking or hot. We have obese girls but they mostly die alone because even the ugly looking dudes can find a good looking girl if they are just not poor as fuck..
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    Because they are usually the same people

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    Because they are usually the same people
    Idk about that, your average anti vaxxer is usually your average middle aged aged soccer mom Launa, outgoing and open about their opposed antivaxxing and probably believes it causes autism, while your average flat earther is usually your typical monster drinking burger grilling boomer Jeff, quiet and careful about it and will usually say he never had all the facts but to "keep an open mind" and look at it from another angle

    rarely will the two collide
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    Idk about that, your average anti vaxxer is usually your average middle aged aged soccer mom Launa, outgoing and open about their opposed antivaxxing and probably believes it causes autism, while your average flat earther is usually your typical monster drinking burger grilling boomer, quiet and careful about it and will usually say he never had all the facts but to "keep an open mind" and look at it from another angle

    rareky will the two collide
    I get the impression that one who believes a conspiracy theory believes them all

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    I must say i am baffled by the fact that someone would date Tifa, or that someone like Tifa is able to put a dude in a friendzone. Like are you really so depleted on the good looking girls? In my country no one would ever even look at her twice. We have 2/1 (Girl/Boy) ratio, and most of the girls are decent looking or hot. We have obese girls but they mostly die alone because even the ugly looking dudes can find a good looking girl if they are just not poor as fuck..
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiskÓđinn View Post
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    So whenever someone wants to take jabs at conspiracy types they'll usually just brush it off and poke fun with some flat earthers and anti vaxxiners joke, as they're both seen in the same light, also the same thing for water supply tampering (particularly in America)

    but why

    One can be disproven by things like varying star constellations, Foucault pendulum, the existence of time zones, shadows and sticks, the center of gravity, etc., and would have just about no benefit to make it worth all the impossibly high effort you'd have to go through to cover up

    The other is a perfectly viable way to widely administer whatever unsavory substances for whatever reason to a large population that a particularly corrupt group of people may want to take advantage of either for a profit or some other motive, say, actually destroying people's immune systems to cripple their bodies and make them more dependent on whatever poison you keep pumping out and thereby ensuring endless revenue, or something

    Like, people are already well aware of the shady business practices of large corporations and global conglomerates, massive pharmaceutical companies and food chains especially

    Can you really take a look at things like Project MKUltra which was literally the US Government illegally testing drugs for the purpose of mind control on its own unknowing citizens and completely rule out vaccines being used covertly for an eerily similar purpose?


    they're just really not on the same level of absurdity
    It's still pretty dumb. Vaccines aren't manufactured directly to the government, they're contracted out to pharmaceutical companies. If anything was being done to tamper with them, and the manufacturer illegally produced some blatantly false analytics, there's basically no chance something like this could be kept hush hush. You can't just secretly add in a special lil ingredient to the manufacturing process without like, everyone at the company knowing about it, from the scientists, operators, and people far less important that whatever the higher ups want to do (let's say they do for the sake of argument). So then that leaves properly discussing vaccine effects down to their baseline ingredients (which there have been lots of discussion over). Furthermore considering vaccines are administered so infrequently it would be a pretty bad way to keep people drugged. There are some drugs that can be administered for extended release, but of course how much of

    Basically even tap water autists have far more legitimacy
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    This is mostly an American thing because the CIA weaponized the word to muddy the waters. https://steemit.com/history/@thelast...spiracy-theory Most people will not delve in something that has a conspiracy theory sticker on it, convenient and effective.


    I definitely will never rule out something and brush it off as conspiracy but will also never build on it unless it becomes clearer. Pathological liars (u.s gov being one) aren't taken seriously by me though, the track record speaks volumes.

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    It's still pretty dumb. Vaccines aren't manufactured directly to the government, they're contracted out to pharmaceutical companies. If anything was being done to tamper with them, and the manufacturer illegally produced some blatantly false analytics, there's basically no chance something like this could be kept hush hush. You can't just secretly add in a special lil ingredient to the manufacturing process without like, everyone at the company knowing about it, from the scientists, operators, and people far less important that whatever the higher ups want to do (let's say they do for the sake of argument). So then that leaves properly discussing vaccine effects down to their baseline ingredients (which there have been lots of discussion over). Furthermore considering vaccines are administered so infrequently it would be a pretty bad way to keep people drugged. There are some drugs that can be administered for extended release, but of course how much of

    Basically even tap water autists have far more legitimacy
    I hope you arent talking about flouride and its mind altering effects in that last sentence of yours

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    I hope you arent talking about flouride and its mind altering effects in that last sentence of yours


    Most grounded concern is that of diluted drugs such as birth control in the water supply that aren't entirely filtered out in purification plants

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    Good you had me worried for a sec

    Birth control substances in the water supply isnt a bad idea though, reminds me of that tv series utopia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra View Post
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    It's still pretty dumb. Vaccines aren't manufactured directly to the government, they're contracted out to pharmaceutical companies. If anything was being done to tamper with them, and the manufacturer illegally produced some blatantly false analytics, there's basically no chance something like this could be kept hush hush. You can't just secretly add in a special lil ingredient to the manufacturing process without like, everyone at the company knowing about it, from the scientists, operators, and people far less important that whatever the higher ups want to do (let's say they do for the sake of argument). So then that leaves properly discussing vaccine effects down to their baseline ingredients (which there have been lots of discussion over). Furthermore considering vaccines are administered so infrequently it would be a pretty bad way to keep people drugged. There are some drugs that can be administered for extended release, but of course how much of

    Basically even tap water autists have far more legitimacy
    I guess, but then the 'ingredient' in question doesn't have to be secret either, about the shady business practices I mentioned earlier there's been quite a few number of cases over the past ten years where a drug/drug regimen has been deemed unsafe and downright dangerous and yet pharma companies cover it up for years in order to keep raking in the dough, like the hormonal replacement therapy for women, the standards of care for a menopausal woman for over 40 years was HRT. Even women with no complaints were (supposedly) ensured that it was helpful cus it reduced chances of a heart attack, cancer and also made them 'feel younger', none of which was true at all as breast cancer risk doubled for women on HRT, 41% increased risk of stroke, 29% increased risk of heart attack, etc. but this all goes back into arguing baseline ingredients as you said

    hell. even Merck the manufacturer of the MMR vaccine is embroiled in two lawsuits for falsifying data on the effectiveness of the mumps vaccine, one of which was brought by two of its own scientists

    how often are vaccines given in the US?

    I guess it's just sorta weird to me that so many people can call out pharma corruption concerning shady pills, the killing thousands and all these class action lawsuits and then reel back in disbelief when people press those same companies over the safety of vaccines

    in the end it would all come back to making a buck off the fact our immune system is still a work in progress though

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    Because often anti-vaccine people try to argue that vaccines are unnecessary and that getting vaccinated at all is detrimental. I've even heard some saying it was the greatest ecological catastrophe of our history.

    Vaccines are also administered to large populations and strictly monitored, so if anything happens it should be detected quickly and solved, so there's very little reason to doubt old vaccines.
    What do you expect pharmaceutical companies to put in those vaccines though?

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    Calling out a company who might not be super honest isn't the same thing as condemning an entire field for being shifty.



    And vaccines are given pretty often in the US.

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