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    Ace was the 2nd division commander

    I've always wondered why Ace was ranked above Jozu and Vista if it was commonly agreed that these characters could compete with admirals and thus low diff him. Is it possible Ace is stronger or just closer to their level than previously thought, in light of FMs being somewhat underwhelming

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    the spot was empty


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    Ace competed with Aokiji and blew back his blue pheasant in MF, so I think he probably is stronger than his showings against Blackbeard would have people think. Then again he could do nothing against Akainu and one hit killed him while we know Vista, Jozu and Marco could at least engage the top tiers in MF for an extended period of time and we've seen people like Jinbei take hits from Akainu and come off better for it and Marco deflected the same attack that Akainu used to kill Ace on Luffy relatively easily so I think there is still a noticeable gap there between him and the others

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    And yeah the spot was empty thats why he is number 2
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    Because he was Whitebeard's favorite son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra View Post
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    I've always wondered why Ace was ranked above Jozu and Vista if it was commonly agreed that these characters could compete with admirals and thus low diff him. Is it possible Ace is stronger or just closer to their level than previously thought, in light of FMs being somewhat underwhelming
    Oda said in an SBS that the division numbers don’t indicate strength.

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    The spot was open that is all.

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    I don't think he was any stronger than indicated, but i wonder where he would be at now if he were alive.
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    Divisions ranks don't indicate strength and that was the only vacant spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    Oda said in an SBS that the division numbers don’t indicate strength.
    This. The spot was just vacant so he took it, cause BB didn't want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    Oda said in an SBS that the division numbers don’t indicate strength.
    But they still do to some extend. Marco being 1st Division Commander, Jozu 3rd and Vista 5th are clearly a lot stronger than the others. What Oda was probably trying to say is that the 14th Division Commander isn't necessarily weaker than the 7th or 8th. So it still raises the question why Ace was ranked so high-up - and the answer is most likely the fact that the spot was empty plus Ace's bloodline. Whitebeard saw his potential.

    Truth is... Ace got introduced druing Alabasta, I wouldn't be surprised if Oda originally planned to make him the 2nd strongest back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    Oda said in an SBS that the division numbers don’t indicate strength.
    This. Also, they gave the spot to BB before but he rejected it.

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    Divisions ranks don't indicate strength. Vista is the 5th commander but he's the strongest and can stall a Yonko.


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