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    Depending how much Diff he said Marco can give them while fighting he was right.

    Pushing them to a reasonable low Mid-Diff fight is fair game

    The new chapter re-affirmed Marco as the odd one out for the FMs.

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    It was kinda obvious when Akainu who just went through an onslaught from WB came back to take on the whole lot of WB commanders and didnt even feel like he was pressured or anything considering the fact that he even took out one of the commanders too during the scuffle, people here just dismissed the whole ordeal cause there were a bunch of marine fodders backing Akainu up and that was supposed to somehow help Akainu.

    Marco alone would get baby shaked by a serious Akainu, even worse by someone whos probably a tad stronger like Kaido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R View Post
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    Depending how much Diff he said Marco can give them while fighting he was right.

    Pushing them to a reasonable low Mid-Diff fight is fair game

    The new chapter re-affirmed Marco as the odd one out for the FMs.
    How can that be? Marco wasn’t in this chapter.

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    Come her and fuck me like a woman.
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    Why is this even a thead?

  4. #24
    Kizaru was just toying with Marco. Some ppl can’t accept this.


  5. #25
    But to be serious Luffy may not have future sight truly mastered yet. He was enraged and his mind wasn’t calm which we know affects CoO.

    If this was a first mate they would potentially dodge Kaido’s attack and not get one shot like Luffy did.

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    Yeah, cause that's how he was portrayed in Marineford. You can't equate characters simply based on their rank in the crew anymore.

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    How can that be? Marco wasn’t in this chapter.
    He wasnt

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    This chapter just confirms what most sensible posters and not some "great" debaters said. YC are shit to the Yonko and Admirals which has been proven countless times in this manga.

    People are trying to pass Marco sending Kizaru flying as something impressive but why don't they say the same about Luffy knocking Dragon Kaido back ? Of course they don't mention it because it shatters their dumb opinion.





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    This chapter just confirms what most sensible posters and not some "great" debaters said. YC are shit to the Yonko and Admirals which has been proven countless times in this manga.

    People are trying to pass Marco sending Kizaru flying as something impressive but why don't they say the same about Luffy knocking Dragon Kaido back ? Of course they don't mention it because it shatters their dumb opinion.
    If you want to give a fair comparison of a fight then compare Human Kaidou, all sobered up.

    Luffy did not manage to send Kaidou flying. Nor did he manage to send Fujitora flying. Actual fights are what we use for comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R View Post
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    If you want to give a fair comparison of a fight then compare Human Kaidou, all sobered up.

    Luffy did not manage to send Kaidou flying. Nor did he manage to send Fujitora flying. Actual fights are what we use for comparison.
    I think you're just playing blind now. G4 did push Kaido back and even pinned him down. Also Fujitora was pushed back too and he was blocking.

    Kizaru was in the air in an unfavorable position and Aokiji wasn't even paying attention.

    Point of the matter is that both Luffy and Marco failed to do shit. Pushing them back or landing attacks means nothing.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellinger View Post
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    This chapter just confirms what most sensible posters and not some "great" debaters said. YC are shit to the Yonko and Admirals which has been proven countless times in this manga.

    People are trying to pass Marco sending Kizaru flying as something impressive but why don't they say the same about Luffy knocking Dragon Kaido back ? Of course they don't mention it because it shatters their dumb opinion.
    Kaido's response to being hit was "sigh". Doesn't get more embarrassing than that. The moment he had enough of his shit he stood up and 1 hit KOed him in his strongest form.

    Marco had multiple scuffles and even got blindsided but still didn't go down. Unless you think the difference between Kaido and the admirals is massive, that's quite telling.

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    I think you're just playing blind now. G4 did push Kaido back and even pinned him down. Also Fujitora was pushed back too and he was blocking.

    Kizaru was in the air in an unfavorable position and Aokiji wasn't even paying attention.

    Point of the matter is that both Luffy and Marco failed to do shit. Pushing them back or landing attacks means nothing.
    Pushing back is not getting send flying. In addition, Marcos feat was performed while Kizarui was actually guarding himself. He didnt nosell it to his face or body like Kaidou did or anything. He blocked Marcos attack in a defensive stance and still got blown away.

    Meanwhile we see what Luffy can accomplish to people of similar caliber even when they dont give a damn about defending themselves with his strongest form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zentos View Post
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    Kaido's response to being hit was "sigh". Doesn't get more embarrassing than that. The moment he had enough of his shit he stood up and 1 hit KOed him in his strongest form.

    Marco had multiple scuffles and even got blindsided but still didn't go down. Unless you think the difference between Kaido and the admirals is massive, that's quite telling.
    So ? Kaido is the guy that is unkillable and is toughest motherfucker in the series. Marco failed to do anything against guys that aren't supposed to be as tough as Kaido. Kizaru got back up in a split second, Aokiji didn't feel a thing and Akainu called Marco annoying.

    Marco is lucky he has that overpowered fruit of his or else he'd get one shot too.

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    Pushing back is not getting send flying. In addition, Marcos feat was performed while Kizarui was actually guarding himself. He didnt nosell it to his face or body like Kaidou did or anything. He blocked Marcos attack in a defensive stance and still got blown away.

    Meanwhile we see what Luffy can accomplish to people of similar caliber even when they dont give a damn about defending themselves with his strongest form.
    See my response to Zentos.

    Also Kizaru was in mid air. He had no footing. Doesn't exactly help.





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    Tfw there's still people out there who use Marco kicking Kizaru to say Marco is > or = to Fuji & Borsalino

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    You guys are already losing this debate when you try to equate Kaido's durability and endurance to others.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellinger View Post
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    So ? Kaido is the guy that is unkillable and is toughest motherfucker in the series. Marco failed to do anything against guys that aren't supposed to be as tough as Kaido. Kizaru got back up in a split second, Aokiji didn't feel a thing and Akainu called Marco annoying.

    Marco is lucky he has that overpowered fruit of his or else he'd get one shot too.
    Let's not bring fruits into this when the C3 are riding on 3 of the most ridiculous logia. The method of how they achieved their strength doesn't matter.

    Marco blocked attacks from both Kizaru and Akainu, even took hits from Kizaru with his DF disabled and still kept going, I guess they're annoying to him as well? MF has shown quite clearly that Kizaru can't do to Marco what Kaido did to Luffy.

    And also, like I already said, Marco>Katakuri>Luffy so this really isn't a reflection on how Marco would fare against Kaido.

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    Tfw there's still people out there who use Marco kicking Kizaru to say Marco is > or = to Fuji & Borsalino
    There really isn't.

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    You guys are already losing this debate when you try to equate Kaido's durability and endurance to others.
    Alright, and Marco tanked an attack from Akainu who's got the most lethal fruit in the series.

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    Tfw there's still people out there who use Marco kicking Kizaru to say Marco is > or = to Fuji & Borsalino
    I dont think anyone is doing that

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    Let's not bring fruits into this when the C3 are riding on 3 of the most ridiculous logia. The method of how they achieved their strength doesn't matter.

    Marco blocked attacks from both Kizaru and Akainu, even took hits from Kizaru with his DF disabled and still kept going, I guess they're annoying to him as well? MF has shown quite clearly that Kizaru can't do to Marco what Kaido did to Luffy.

    And also, like I already said, Marco>Katakuri>Luffy so this really isn't a reflection on how Marco would fare against Kaido.

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    There really isn't.

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    Alright, and Marco tanked an attack from Akainu who's got the most lethal fruit in the series.
    I refer to Zentos for my reply because he ninjad me here.

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    Let's not bring fruits into this when the C3 are riding on 3 of the most ridiculous logia. The method of how they achieved their strength doesn't matter.

    Marco blocked attacks from both Kizaru and Akainu, even took hits from Kizaru with his DF disabled and still kept going, I guess they're annoying to him as well? MF has shown quite clearly that Kizaru can't do to Marco what Kaido did to Luffy.

    And also, like I already said, Marco>Katakuri>Luffy so this really isn't a reflection on how Marco would fare against Kaido.

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    There really isn't.

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    Alright, and Marco tanked an attack from Akainu who's got the most lethal fruit in the series.
    Except that there is

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    Except that there is
    Who and where?

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