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    Edward Elric VS Deku

    Deku at 8%

    Ed gets Northern Automail

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    Remind me of Ed's stats - physical and alchemy.

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    Ed is Town Level and Hypersonic. He stomps.
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    Edward is not hypersonic.

    Physically he's a normal human with zero superpowers that would argument his speed. If anything, Deku should be a lot faster.

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    Edward is not hypersonic.

    Physically he's a normal human with zero superpowers that would argument his speed. If anything, Deku should be a lot faster.
    He's blatantly superhuman as are most all relevant characters in fma

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    He's blatantly superhuman as are most all relevant characters in fma
    There's nothing that suggest people in FMA are hypersonic. This is a manga about Alchemists not Sayans.

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    I'm just curious, if Edward is hypersonic, why does he travel using the train? Wouldn't be faster to just run through the country using his hypersonic speed like Sonic the Hedgehog?
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    There's nothing that suggest people in FMA are hypersonic. This is a manga about Alchemists not Sayans.

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    I'm just curious, if Edward is hypersonic, why does he travel using the train? Wouldn't be faster to just run through the country using his hypersonic speed like Sonic the Hedgehog?
    Such bad arguments lol. There are multiple hypersonic & supersonic feats in the series

    Reaction speed, combat speed & attack speed are not the same thing as long distance movement speed. Stop being so dense

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    Such bad arguments lol. There are multiple hypersonic & supersonic feats in the series

    Reaction speed, combat speed & attack speed are not the same thing as long distance movement speed. Stop being so dense
    You critisize my arguments, while you didn't give any so far. Give me an example if you're so confident.

    Oh, and homunculi don't count since the're not human.
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    You critisize my arguments, while you didn't give any so far. Give me an example if you're so confident.

    Oh, and homunculi don't count since the're not human.
    We've seen humans fight against homunculi countless times. If they weren't superhuman as you so asininely claimed, they would've gotten blitzed without any sort of reaction

    Multiple humans have displayed superhuman speed, strength, durability & endurance. If you haven't read the series I will post some scans, but if you have read it; don't dishonestly debate and act like Ed isn't easily superhuman

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    We've seen humans fight against homunculi countless times. If they weren't superhuman as you so asininely claimed, they would've gotten blitzed without any sort of reaction
    None of the characters that Edward fought have hypersonic feats. Maybe Bradley could be considered hypersonic in terms of swordsmanship and short bursts of speed, but we've seen Bradley easily blitzing Ed.



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    Multiple humans have displayed superhuman speed, strength, durability & endurance. If you haven't read the series I will post some scans, but if you have read it; don't dishonestly debate and act like Ed isn't easily superhuman
    I've watched the series a couple of years ago and I honestly don't remeber Ed having any superhuman feats. So, if you have any panels to prove me wrong, please post it.

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    None of the characters that Edward fought have hypersonic feats. Maybe Bradley could be considered hypersonic in terms of swordsmanship and short bursts of speed, but we've seen Bradley easily blitzing Ed. I've watched the series a couple of years ago and I honestly don't remeber Ed having any superhuman feats. So, if you have any panels to prove me wrong, please post it.
    Bradley has three hypersonic feats and he's not even as fast as Sloth who is the fastest humonculus. One of the hypersonic feats was Bradley covering a decent portion of a train's length before an explosion ended. Guys like Mustang can react to Bradley's speed from shorter distances than that

    That clip is Bradley blitzing Ed two years before the start of the series. 16 year old Ed > 15 year old Ed > 13 year old Ed who got blitzed by Bradley



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    Bradley has three hypersonic feats and he's not even as fast as Sloth who is the fastest humonculus. One of the hypersonic feats was Bradley covering a decent portion of a train's length before an explosion ended. Guys like Mustang can react to Bradley's speed from shorter distances than that

    That clip is Bradley blitzing Ed two years before the start of the series. 16 year old Ed > 15 year old Ed > 13 year old Ed who got blitzed by Bradley



    None of those situations are really dodging bullets. In the first one Ed most likely prepared the wall before the priest was able to properly aim at him (there's tones of smoke blocking his vision).

    In the second Ed simply moved from bullets trajectory before it fired (you can see Marcoh having his eyes closed plus it was comedic scene).

    Deku actually has far more impressive feat here
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/318379724?t=01h09m33s
    https://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Use...25#Final_Tally

    Not only he dodged several bullets from two machine guns at close distance, but if you look closely it seem he also tanked some of them without scratch.
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    None of those situations are really dodging bullets. In the first one Ed most likely prepared the wall before the priest was able to properly aim at him (there's tones of smoke blocking his vision).

    In the second Ed simply moved from bullets trajectory before it fired (you can see Marcoh having his eyes closed plus it was comedic scene).

    Deku actually has far more impressive feat here
    https://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Use...25#Final_Tally

    Not only he dodged several bullets from two machine guns at close distance, but if you look closely it seem he also tanked some of them without scratch.
    You see still the electricity from Ed's alchemy having just been used, which isn't present in the earlier panel. Your second excuse makes no sense. You can clearly see their figures through the smoke

    No. It was calced at supersonic, I can link the calc if you'd like

    Ed's feat of dodging Marcoh's gunfire is 4x times higher than Deku's feat. Not that it matters since he scales to Bradley's hypersonic movement speed via being faster than Scar who Bradley can't blitz

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    Ed obv has superhuman speed just maybe not hypersonic

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    You see still the electricity from Ed's alchemy having just been used, which isn't present in the earlier panel. Your second excuse makes no sense. You can clearly see their figures through the smoke
    In the first situation the priest is literally shooting a room full of smoke. There's no proof the first bullets were even properly aimed.
    Aiming normal gun is already hard for a newbie, handling a minigun that kicks a lot of power in a situation of bad visibility can be pain in the ass.

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    No. It was calced at supersonic, I can link the calc if you'd like

    Ed's feat of dodging Marcoh's gunfire is 4x times higher than Deku's feat. Not that it matters since he scales to Bradley's hypersonic movement speed via being faster than Scar who Bradley can't blitz
    I don't think you understood what I was trying to say, so I'm gonna repeat myself.

    Ed didn't dodge the bullet. He used the fact that Marco has his eyes closed to move from the shots trajectory before he pulled the trigger. On top of that, it's a comedic scene and we both know that comedic scenes in FMA can sometimes be exaggerated for the sake of humour.
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    Deku might be able to blitz here. However to do any real damage he would have to go 100 percent and that'd probably cause some problems. Imma just go with ed extreme diff

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    In the first situation the priest is literally shooting a room full of smoke. There's no proof the first bullets were even properly aimed.


    I don't think you understood what I was trying to say, so I'm gonna repeat myself.

    Ed didn't dodge the bullet. He used the fact that Marco has his eyes closed to move from the shots trajectory before he pulled the trigger. On top of that, it's a comedic scene and we both know that comedic scenes in FMA can sometimes be exaggerated for the sake of humour.
    He never changed the positioning of the gun after he started firing to begin with and the wall blocked multiple bullets

    I understood, I'm saying I disagree with you

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    He never changed the positioning of the gun after he started firing to begin with and the wall blocked multiple bullets
    From the spark effects going in all directions it seem to me that he moved a gun a lot. Even the bulletholes at the wall look like it was shot by a moving gun.
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    I understood, I'm saying I disagree with you
    In that case, I have nothing more to add to convince you. The fact that Marco has his eyes closed alone makes this feat at least doubtful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
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    There's nothing that suggest people in FMA are hypersonic. This is a manga about Alchemists not Sayans.

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    I'm just curious, if Edward is hypersonic, why does he travel using the train? Wouldn't be faster to just run through the country using his hypersonic speed like Sonic the Hedgehog?
    trash argument. there are countless characters even faster that go around via vehicular transport.


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