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    Acnologia's Roar Rererererecalc

    Phew, this is going to be hard….

    EDIT:

    Redid the crater volume to a spherical cap. Oh well, still worth it.
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    First I’ll scale Acnologia’s Wings:


    Average Human arm = 0.7 meters(source)(?)
    Freed’s Arm = 55 px
    Ratio = 0.0127272727272727 m/px
    Acno’s Eye = 34 px = 0.43272 meters

    Acno’s Eye = 0.43272 meters
    Acno’s Eye = 19 px
    Ratio = 0.0227747368421053 m/px
    Acno’s Mouth = 68 px = 1.54868 meters

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    Acno’s Mouth = 1.54868 meters
    Acno’s Mouth = 25 px
    Ratio = 0.0619472 m/px
    Acno’s Wing = 194 px = 12.017 meters

    Acno’s Wing = 12.017 meters
    Acno’s Wing = 112 px
    Ratio = 0.1072946428571429 m/px

    Beam Diameter = 120 px = 12.87535 meters
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    Acno’s Beam = 12.87535 meters
    Acno’s Beam = 2 px
    Ratio = 6.437675 m/px

    Explosion Diameter = 750 px = 4828.25625 meters
    Tenrou Diameter = 545 px = 3508.532875 meters
    Explosion Height = 590 px = 3798.22825 meters


    First, we’ll calculate the volume of destroyed rock.
    Explosion Diameter = 4828.25625 meters
    Explosion Diameter = 270 px
    Ratio = 17.8824305555555556 m/px
    Explosion Radius = 4828.25625/2 = 2414.128125 meters
    Going to assume that the crater height is as big as the explosion height(should be a fair assumption, and if not I’d like to hear opinions on what it should be)
    Crater Height = Explosion Height = 3798.22825 meters
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    Spherical Cap Calculator:
    https://www.calculator.net/volume-calculator.html
    V = 63462094623.829 m^3

    Violent Fragmentation(Low-End):
    E = 63462094623.829 m^3 * 1000000 * 69 j/cc = 4378884529044201000 joules = 1.04 gigatons(Small Island level)

    Pulverisation(High-End):
    E = 39289662293.682 m^3 * 1000000 * 214.35 j/cc = 8421739112650736700 joules = 3.25 gigatons(Small Island level)


    Now to calculate the vaporized water. First we’ll find the volume:



    Explosion Diameter = 4828.25625 meters
    Explosion Diameter = 418 px
    Ratio = 11.5508522727272727 m/px
    Water Height = 45 px= 519.7883522727272715 meters
    Cylinder Volume:
    V = 9516933778.9332 m^3

    However, we should keep in mind that the island itself was in the place of this water, and since Acno didn’t destroy the island due to Fairy Sphere, we’ll have to take out the volume of the island.
    Tenrou Diameter = 3508.532875 meters(from earlier), so:
    Vtenrou = 5025364010.1113 m^3

    V’ = V – Vtenrou = 4491569768.8219 m^3
    Density of water = 1000 kg/m^3
    Mass = V’ * D = 4491569768821.9 kg
    Specific Heat of water C = 4186 J/kg
    Average Ocean temperature is 15 degrees, so:
    100-15 = 85 degrees
    E1 = 85 * 4186 * 4491569768821.9 = 1598145439444520239 joules
    Heat of vaporization is 2257000 J/kg
    E2 = 4491569768821.9 kg * 2257000 J/kg = 10137472968231028300 joules
    E = E1 + E2 = 11735618407675548539 joules = 2.804 gigatons(Small Island level)

    <=>

    Low-End:
    1.04 + 2.804 = 3.84 gigatons(Small Island level+)
    High-End:
    3.25 + 2.804 = 6.05 gigatons(Island level)
    Phew, took me a while. I'm open to critizism. Still not sure whether violent fragmentation or pulverisation should be used

    Well, at least it's better than the NF 80 megatons
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    Interesting.

    I hope you're prepared good sir
    You're all...so small

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    Actually gotta give props to Sir Torch for trying to learn the feats of series before arguing a biased point and picking up how to calc the feats himself. He's got motivation that's for sure, repped.


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    Just glossed over it very quick and could not find any major flaws. Surely worth a closer look.

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    Should also note that this was Acnologia weaker than prima and is not playing with FT
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    The problem is the island is much larger than that given the fact we can't even see the GH ship compared to it.

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    Just glossed over it very quick and could not find any major flaws. Surely worth a closer look.
    >Completely ignores the fact that Sirius Island is much larger than 5km




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    And it begins

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    i swear on god i'd support going xenforo just to threadban rax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numinous One View Post
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    And it begins
    Come on, mang.

    If a few hundred long ship isn't visible from a clear overhead view then there's no way the island is 5km.

    That's silly



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    Tenrou Diameter = 545 px = 3508.532875 meters

    That's strange. According to Rax, Tenrou Island is about 80 kilometers long.

    Good job, by the way. Island level from busting an island, nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jörmungandr View Post
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    Tenrou Diameter = 545 px = 3508.532875 meters

    That's strange. According to Rax, Tenrou Island is about 80 kilometers long.

    Good job, by the way. Island level from busting an island, nice.
    Explain why you can't see the GH ship at all then if the island is only 3500m wide

    You also can't scale this way.

    The explosion is still expanding and clearly was much larger than the island.

    You can see how big the island was in proportion to the distance Acno was and then the same with the crater.

    The crater was vastly larger.



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    what have you done


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    Explain why you can't see the GH ship at all then if the island is only 3500m wide

    You also can't scale this way.

    The explosion is still expanding and clearly was much larger than the island.

    You can see how big the island was in proportion to the distance Acno was and then the same with the crater.

    The crater was vastly larger.
    Eh, I don't care about that, buddy. I was just making a joke. That's it. It looks like I shouldn't do that.

    This is Sir Torch's thread, so let's not start a pointless discussion which probably would be over 10 pages long.

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    Yes, I've sinned.

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    I'm just saiyan.

    The island being 3.5km makes no sense given the arc.

    The GH Ship was massive and yet they had a good deal of trouble finding it.



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    I'm just saiyan.

    The island being 3.5km makes no sense given the arc.

    The GH Ship was massive and yet they had a good deal of trouble finding it.
    If by good deal of trouble you mean finding it practically instantly then sure.

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    Well at least you didn’t get. 300 meter Acnologia





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    Quote Originally Posted by Numinous One View Post
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    If by good deal of trouble you mean finding it practically instantly then sure.
    40 chapters later.

    Can you explain why the GH ship was never visible in any of the overhead shots and didn't take up a massive chunk of the island?

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LUlKngo6ap...0/0236-003.png
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_pznctHHFu...0/0246-011.png

    Given that the attack starts here and the GH ship isn't visible at all from being equal to or shorter than that slope of the island, that part should be at least as tall as the GH ship is.




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    So I realized there's a good way of calcing his Tenrou roar using angular size to find the depth of the crater.

    Phew, this is going to be hard….

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    First I’ll scale Acnologia’s Wings:


    Average Human arm = 0.7 meters(source)(?)
    Freed’s Arm = 55 px
    Ratio = 0.0127272727272727 m/px
    Acno’s Eye = 34 px = 0.43272 meters

    Acno’s Eye = 0.43272 meters
    Acno’s Eye = 19 px
    Ratio = 0.0227747368421053 m/px
    Acno’s Mouth = 68 px = 1.54868 meters

    _____
    Acno’s Mouth = 1.54868 meters
    Acno’s Mouth = 25 px
    Ratio = 0.0619472 m/px
    Acno’s Wing = 194 px = 12.017 meters



    Acno’s Wing = 12.017 meters
    Acno’s Wing = 112 px
    Ratio = 0.1072946428571429 m/px

    Beam Diameter = 120 px = 12.87535 meters
    ______________

    Acno’s Beam = 12.87535 meters
    Acno’s Beam = 2 px
    Ratio = 6.437675 m/px

    Explosion Diameter = 750 px = 4828.25625 meters
    Tenrou Diameter = 545 px = 3508.532875 meters




    First, we’ll calculate the volume of destroyed rock.
    Explosion Diameter = 4828.25625 meters
    Explosion Diameter = 270 px
    Ratio = 17.8824305555555556 m/px

    I’m going to calculate the depth of the crater.
    Object =2 * arctan(Object_Size/(Panel_Height/(tan(70/2))) = 2 * arctan(30/(272/tan(70/2))) = 8.832233979022 degrees
    The crater should be 4828.25625 meters, so:
    http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm
    Height = 31259 meters

    R = 4828.25625/2 = 2414.128125 meters
    Cylinder Calculator:
    https://www.calculator.net/volume-calculator.html

    V = 572328779001.93 m^3
    Violent Fragmentation(Low-End):
    E = 572328779001.93 m^3 * 1000000 * 69 j/cc = 39490685751133170000 joules = 9.438 gigatons(Island level)

    Pulverisation(High-End):
    E = 572328779001.93 m^3 * 1000000 * 214.35 j/cc = 122678673779063695500 joules = 29.320 gigatons (Island level)

    Now to calculate the vaporized water. First we’ll find the volume:



    Explosion Diameter = 4828.25625 meters
    Explosion Diameter = 418 px
    Ratio = 11.5508522727272727 m/px
    Water Height = 45 px= 519.7883522727272715 meters
    Cylinder Volume:
    V = 9516933778.9332 m^3

    However, we should keep in mind that the island itself was in the place of this water, and since Acno didn’t destroy the island due to Fairy Sphere, we’ll have to take out the volume of the island.
    Tenrou Diameter = 3508.532875 meters(from earlier), so:
    Vtenrou = 5025364010.1113 m^3

    V’ = V – Vtenrou = 4491569768.8219 m^3
    Density of water = 1000 kg/m^3
    Mass = V’ * D = 4491569768821.9 kg
    Specific Heat of water C = 4186 J/kg
    Average Ocean temperature is 15 degrees, so:
    100-15 = 85 degrees
    E1 = 85 * 4186 * 4491569768821.9 = 1598145439444520239 joules
    Heat of vaporization is 2257000 J/kg
    E2 = 4491569768821.9 kg * 2257000 J/kg = 10137472968231028300 joules
    E = E1 + E2 = 11735618407675548539 joules = 2.804 gigatons(Small Island level)

    <=>

    Low-End:
    9.438 + 2.804 = 12.242 gigatons(Island level)
    High-End:
    29.320 + 2.804 = 32.124 gigatons(Island level)
    Phew, took me a while. I'm open to critizism. Still not sure whether violent fragmentation or pulverisation should be used

    Well, at least it gives Acno a higher number than before(excluding the whole etherion scaling)
    Now I might be missing something or you missed a step but did you scale the crater as a cylinder?

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    Now I might be missing something or you missed a step but did you scale the crater as a cylinder?
    Just gonna ignore me?



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