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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellinger View Post
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    The novel pretty much has Kaido being stated as the strongest creature before WB died. Again Oda was supervising it so he wouldn’t pass such a thing if it wasn’t right. Being more of a creature than a man doesn’t matter since the word that is being used includes all living organisms

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    The Goddess clan's magic is made out of particles of light.
    Derierre dispersed an Ark with her darkness and Galan lifted one.

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    The novel pretty much has Kaido being stated as the strongest creature before WB died. Again Oda was supervising it so he wouldn’t pass such a thing if it wasn’t right. Being more of a creature than a man doesn’t matter since the word that is being used includes all living organisms
    which WB at that point in time no longer is part of

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    which WB at that point in time no longer is part of
    While I don’t think Kaidou should scale to Wb at the moment this is incorrect. No where does it mention or even suggest that the strongest creature title came after WB’s death. New info for us doesn’t equal new info for inverse. The novel wasn’t talking about B.B. at all it was Wb which means all that info came prior to Wb’s Death. If that opposite was true it would have been speaking about B.B.

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    The novel is also about Ace before we see him in Alabasta. It doesn’t make sense for all that info to come after Wb’s Death.

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    The novel is also about Ace before we see him in Alabasta. It doesnt make sense for all that info to come after Wbs Death.

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    The novel is also about Ace before we see him in Alabasta. It doesnt make sense for all that info to come after Wbs Death.

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    Kizaru beats galand, mid-diff probably.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythoclast View Post
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    You don't need to restrict Kizaru's logia intangibility.
    Galan can hit him with his darkness.

    As for the match,Kizaru wins.Galan depends mostly on his brute strength and Kizaru has him beat in that area.
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    Galand does not use soul rip in character
    I know however I don't want the argument of a low-diff for Galand because of a soul rip that only worked on normal humans. Melascula is the exception because it is her specialty.

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    WB was crystal clear the weakest Top-Tier in MF.

    Any of the 3 Admirals would solo him.

    BTW,Kizaru is 1 digit GTs yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efege View Post
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    WB was crystal clear the weakest Top-Tier in MF.

    Any of the 3 Admirals would solo him.

    BTW,Kizaru is 1 digit GTs yes?
    Since the chinjao calc is flawed, you're right, he should scale to Fuji's Fierce Tiger/Aokiji's Freezing, which is 1 digit gigaton.

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    Lol the Chinjao calc is still fine.

    Even then he would scale to Fujitoras meteor which are around 100 gigatons anyway.
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    No the Chinjao calc is not fine

    far too many assumptions
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    Kizaru still massacres regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meng Hao View Post
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    Kizaru still massacres regardless.
    mid-dif isnt a massacre






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    It isn't mid diff honestly.

    Kizaru has had a massive stat advantage.
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    What's Kizaru's best feat even?

    I doubt he scales to Akainu in DC/Durability


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    What's Kizaru's best feat even?

    I doubt he scales to Akainu in DC/Durability
    ^This right here shows the fact that Rax never does his research about One Piece.

    Admirals are all considered to be in the same league by the fact they all have the same rank.

    Kizaru managed to fire lasers at Whitebeard which actually managed to harm him and fight Top Tiers like Marco/Reyleigh who are considered Admiral Level.

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    ^This right here shows the fact that Rax never does his research about One Piece.

    Admirals are all considered to be in the same league by the fact they all have the same rank.

    Kizaru managed to fire lasers at Whitebeard which actually managed to harm him and fight Top Tiers like Marco/Reyleigh who are considered Admiral Level.
    Hurting Whitebeard during MF isn't exactly a mark of strength considering every man and their dog could make him bleed at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCree View Post
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    It isn't mid diff honestly.

    Kizaru has had a massive stat advantage.
    no he dont






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    Quote Originally Posted by Numinous One View Post
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    Hurting Whitebeard during MF isn't exactly a mark of strength considering every man and their dog could make him bleed at that point.
    ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numinous One View Post
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    Hurting Whitebeard during MF isn't exactly a mark of strength considering every man and their dog could make him bleed at that point.
    Yeah but that was arguably PIS and he was sick, even then the marines didn't bother him until the Admirals came in and actually did something like Kizaru. It's exactly like the time Luffy got poisoned by that fish when in fact he had extremely high resistances towards it.

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    high resistance ≠ immunity

    and wb's low durability threshold was pretty consistent throughout the war. can't just arbitrarily decide which attack wb took had more weight when they all had the same result.

    that said, the admirals still obviously scale to each other

    this is an easy win for kizaru
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    >Easy win for Kizaru

    >The gap between Galan and him is not big

    Come on Teo...
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