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  1. #1

    Gekishin vs Gouhoumei

    Plains.

    Both have 120 000 soldiers under command.

    Gekishin has his Poison elites and mountain tribes.
    Gouhoumei has Ranbihaku.


    Who wins? Why? Difficulty?

  2. #2
    Gekishin wins extreme difficulty but GHM is likely about to surpass him soon.

  3. #3
    I’m not quite sure. If GHM plays it right like Riboku did and forces Gekishin to duel Ranbihaku he got this. Otherwise Gekishin should prevail atm.
    Last edited by RoyalIce; 06-06-2018 at 02:57 PM.


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    Need to have some time to think about this, Gouhoumei is a beast, still most of his showings until now where meh... Gekishin was killed in his first battle. Did go see the stats of the three guys involved, for the ones interested:

    Go Hou Mei 60/89/98/A
    Ran Bi Haku 94/70/45/A

    Geki Shin 90/95/92/99/A

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    on the plains gohoumei absolutely erekts him

    i can't even bring myself to think of other outcomes


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    On plains Gouhomei's formations and Ranbihaku will definitely be enough for Geki Shin.

  7. #7
    What if Ordo is vice general for Gekishin, on plains than of course...

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    I dont know why you think on the plains Gouhoumei is favored that much, i doubt that Gakukis warfare is bad suited for that kind of battle. The only thing that is favored more in that regard is Ranbihaku because charging youre enemy is easier.

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    geki shin ≠ gaku ki

    going with ghm here
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  10. #10
    No, just doubtful that Gekishin lacks plains battle skills when he watched the battles of the military god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naki View Post
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    I dont know why you think on the plains Gouhoumei is favored that much, i doubt that Gakukis warfare is bad suited for that kind of battle. The only thing that is favored more in that regard is Ranbihaku because charging youre enemy is easier.
    yan is mostly a mountainous kingdom, it's likely that most of their battles are waged in mountains/hills etc.

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    yan is mostly a mountainous kingdom, it's likely that most of their battles are waged in mountains/hills etc.
    Is that so, going by the map it seems half/half. But mostly its probably because Ordo is a mountain specialist and has mountain tribes in his army.
    Also Gekishin has some of them and overall it seems Yan is allied with the mountain area.
    https://mangadex.org/chapter/63074/24
    But what people seem to completely forget is that Yan also seems to have allied themselfs with the various steppe tribes to the north and east. So said by Ten:
    https://mangadex.org/chapter/63074/14
    And another thing that speaks for that is the poison dogs of Gekishin that are from the fastest horsemen tribe the quanrong, they are a mountain clan, still it seems that they are renowned as one of the fastest cavalry in all of china:
    https://mangadex.org/chapter/63075/15
    https://mangadex.org/chapter/63075/16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naki View Post
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    Is that so, going by the map it seems half/half. But mostly its probably because Ordo is a mountain specialist and has mountain tribes in his army.
    Also Gekishin has some of them and overall it seems Yan is allied with the mountain area.
    https://mangadex.org/chapter/63074/24
    But what people seem to completely forget is that Yan also seems to have allied themselfs with the various steppe tribes to the north and east. So said by Ten:
    https://mangadex.org/chapter/63074/14
    And another thing that speaks for that is the poison dogs of Gekishin that are from the fastest horsemen tribe the quanrong, they are a mountain clan, still it seems that they are renowned as one of the fastest cavalry in all of china:
    https://mangadex.org/chapter/63075/15
    https://mangadex.org/chapter/63075/16
    yeah so are you agreeing with me or what

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan View Post
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    yeah so are you agreeing with me or what
    Nope, i doubt that Gekishin lacks such a major weakness like plains battle. Damn his cavalry is comprised of the best horsemen tribe in all of china, i doubt they are fighting on mountains with these horses. And that the allied themselves with the steppes implies that there are not just mountain/hill areas.

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    Much of Gekishin's fame was gained whilst pushing back Qi and there's no mountains on that border, so it's illogical to assume Gekishin specializes in mountains over plains. It's not like he had some 'Mountain King' hype a la Ordo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naki View Post
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    Nope, i doubt that Gekishin lacks such a major weakness like plains battle. Damn his cavalry is comprised of the best horsemen tribe in all of china, i doubt they are fighting on mountains with these horses. And that the allied themselves with the steppes implies that there are not just mountain/hill areas.
    i didn't say he was bad at plains warfare

    the best cavalry are usually represented by doing shit like climbing cliffs and fighting on rough terrain, them being the best horsemen isn't a point in favor of plains battle.

    allying with steppes doesn't mean he's good at plains, qin is allied with the mountain people and they aren't fighting on mountains

    also nobody said gekishin is bad at plains warfare, but we have seen how devastating gokei/ghm's formations are in plains battles, that's why we favor him over gekishins nonexistent feats

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    i didn't say he was bad at plains warfare

    the best cavalry are usually represented by doing shit like climbing cliffs and fighting on rough terrain, them being the best horsemen isn't a point in favor of plains battle.

    allying with steppes doesn't mean he's good at plains, qin is allied with the mountain people and they aren't fighting on mountains

    also nobody said gekishin is bad at plains warfare, but we have seen how devastating gokei/ghm's formations are in plains battles, that's why we favor him over gekishins nonexistent feats
    I never stated that you said hes bad a plains warfare, just that youre point to my post is futile.

    of course it is, these fuckers are the fastest horsemen tribe we know of, that has nothing to do with Kaine or Kisuis fucking cliff sliding horses...

    but having some mountain areas, some mountain tribes implies hes bad at plains battle? I dont get the point... why even bother if you dont think hes bad at plains warfare?

    what has Gokei now to do with Gouhoumei and where has Gouhoumei shown that his plain warfare is superior to anything other? The guy has 98 intelligence. If guys would actually come with war chariots and the use in plains is easier i actually can relate...

    so my point is i doubt that at this point either of them is at a disadvantage or superior compared to the other on plains battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanki View Post
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    Much of Gekishin's fame was gained whilst pushing back Qi and there's no mountains on that border, so it's illogical to assume Gekishin specializes in mountains over plains. It's not like he had some 'Mountain King' hype a la Ordo.
    you're not wrong

    in fact, i'm pretty sure gohoumei breaks him even in a mountain terrain now that i think about it. It's just less close in the plains.


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    you're not wrong

    in fact, i'm pretty sure gohoumei breaks him even in a mountain terrain now that i think about it. It's just less close in the plains.
    GHM has never stepped foot on a mountain in his life lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanki View Post
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    GHM has never stepped foot on a mountain in his life lol.
    chiyoyo was a mountainous battlefield and that's why he could nest in it so well

    her defensive formation was said flawless


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