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    >Joker
    >Bane
    >Riddler
    >Penguin
    >Mad Hatter
    >Ra's al ghul
    >Deathstroke
    >Tons more

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    What's this supposed to prove exactly? Do you think you couldn't provide such a list of villains from other heroes or that Mad Hatter, Cobblepot, and Bane are the A-grade status that other rogue galleries simply can't measure up to?

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    What's this supposed to prove exactly? Do you think you couldn't provide such a list of villains from other heroes or that Mad Hatter, Cobblepot, and Bane are the A-grade status that other rogue galleries simply can't measure up to?
    The Joker alone hard stomps anyone Spidey has.



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    The flash.

    I don't care much for the spider-man villains.


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    The flash.

    I don't care much for the spider-man villains.
    What about them didn't you care for?

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    I'd probably have to go with Spiderman, that's a tough selection to beat.
    Am I crazy? Didn't we do this before?

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    The Joker alone hard stomps anyone Spidey has.
    He's the most iconic for sure, doesn't really translate to being the best or stomping any opposition, or that he's even a flawless villain.

    I think he's actually gone through quite a few rough patches over the years. In order to try competing with the Bat-God that DC created trying to make Batman a legitimate threat to the Justice League, they've tried elevating Joker up to match making him pretty much Satan incarnate instead of just some kooky criminal dressed up like a clown, and it's come off as really ham-fisted and try-hard. That's not even getting into some of the extreme edgelord phases where they decided levity should take a back seat for the Clown Prince and he should be pulling stunts like cutting his own face off.

    Could even argue his iconic status is something of a double edge sword, because then you risk him overshadowing the rest of the rogue gallery and/or getting shoved down people's throat like in the Arkham games where they have to make him take center stage each and every time stealing the spotlight from whoever was suppose to have their day in the limelight. He can end up becoming something of a safety net for writers who aren't confident they can sell a big story with one of the lesser villains.

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    Am I crazy? Didn't we do this before?

    I can't locate the thread, but I could have sworn we've done this before.
    On more than one occasion

    Here's one such instance: http://www.millenniumforums.com/show...gues-Galleries

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    Spiderman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Potato View Post
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    He's the most iconic for sure, doesn't really translate to being the best or stomping any opposition, or that he's even a flawless villain.

    I think he's actually gone through quite a few rough patches over the years. In order to try competing with the Bat-God that DC created trying to make Batman a legitimate threat to the Justice League, they've tried elevating Joker up to match making him pretty much Satan incarnate instead of just some kooky criminal dressed up like a clown, and it's come off as really ham-fisted and try-hard. That's not even getting into some of the extreme edgelord phases where they decided levity should take a back seat for the Clown Prince and he should be pulling stunts like cutting his own face off.

    Could even argue his iconic status is something of a double edge sword, because then you risk him overshadowing the rest of the rogue gallery and/or getting shoved down people's throat like in the Arkham games where they have to make him take center stage each and every time stealing the spotlight from whoever was suppose to have their day in the limelight. He can end up becoming something of a safety net for writers who aren't confident they can sell a big story with one of the lesser villains.



    On more than one occasion

    Here's one such instance: http://www.millenniumforums.com/show...gues-Galleries
    I knew I wasn't crazy.

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    Also wanted to throw a mention to the X-Men and Superman rogues galleries.
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    Batman's Rogue Gallery is the most memorable for me.

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    Spiderman with Batman right behind. i also prefer most of the alliances Spidey makes over any other hero

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    Spiderman with Batman right behind. i also prefer most of the alliances Spidey makes over any other hero
    Yeah, Spidey has a tendency to team up with his villains (as Spidey has a tendency to team up with ANYTHING) to combat other threats. Though it's usually portrayed in a personal grudge way and not just a, "We're both New Yorkers, so we stick together" way. Often enough it's an "Enemy of my enemy is a friend for now," sort of way.

    Spidey and Venom, Spidey and Kaine, Spidey and the Lizard, Spidey and Sandman, Spidey and Jameson, Spidey and the Cat, Spidey and Ock, Spidey and a fire hydrant, Spidey and random bystander #58. Seriously, Spider-Man teams up with anything. There was a miniseries based around this very concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makenzye View Post
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    Yeah, Spidey has a tendency to team up with his villains (as Spidey has a tendency to team up with ANYTHING) to combat other threats. Though it's usually portrayed in a personal grudge way and not just a, "We're both New Yorkers, so we stick together" way. Often enough it's an "Enemy of my enemy is a friend for now," sort of way.

    Spidey and Venom, Spidey and Kaine, Spidey and the Lizard, Spidey and Sandman, Spidey and Jameson, Spidey and the Cat, Spidey and Ock, Spidey and a fire hydrant, Spidey and random bystander #58. Seriously, Spider-Man teams up with anything. There was a miniseries based around this very concept.
    which is makes more sense, when they've been trying to kill the man ever since he was a twig. it's really good when done well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Potato View Post
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    He's the most iconic for sure, doesn't really translate to being the best or stomping any opposition, or that he's even a flawless villain.

    I think he's actually gone through quite a few rough patches over the years. In order to try competing with the Bat-God that DC created trying to make Batman a legitimate threat to the Justice League, they've tried elevating Joker up to match making him pretty much Satan incarnate instead of just some kooky criminal dressed up like a clown, and it's come off as really ham-fisted and try-hard. That's not even getting into some of the extreme edgelord phases where they decided levity should take a back seat for the Clown Prince and he should be pulling stunts like cutting his own face off.

    Could even argue his iconic status is something of a double edge sword, because then you risk him overshadowing the rest of the rogue gallery and/or getting shoved down people's throat like in the Arkham games where they have to make him take center stage each and every time stealing the spotlight from whoever was suppose to have their day in the limelight. He can end up becoming something of a safety net for writers who aren't confident they can sell a big story with one of the lesser villains.



    On more than one occasion

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    The mang beat Superman in an afternoon

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    Batman's Rogue Gallery is the most memorable for me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ink Spot View Post
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    which is makes more sense, when they've been trying to kill the man ever since he was a twig. it's really good when done well
    It also works pretty well to sort of give some insight on how Spidey handles his world. He understands there is a status quo and is willing to temporarily subvert it while fully understanding it's a temporary alliance. He doesn't have any real belief it will change someone at their core. He understands the moment he's done allying himself with Venom he will be trading punches with him the next day.

    A minor spoiler, but in the most recent issue he sort of gave a clean slate to an old foe but pretty much just told him he'll put his ass in line if said villain steps out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makenzye View Post
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    What about them didn't you care for?
    Short answer. Spider-man and anything he is involved in.

    There was this awful cartoon when I was a kid that I sometimes watched. Ruined any interest I had in him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordlending View Post
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    Short answer. Spider-man and anything he is involved in.

    There was this awful cartoon when I was a kid that I sometimes watched. Ruined any interest I had in him.
    Ah, that early burn. Hard to shake.

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    The mang beat Superman in an afternoon
    Do you feel that's what makes him a great and compelling villain that other rogue galleries just can't compete with? Does Doomsday top your list of most quality written villains as well?

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    Yeah, Spidey has a tendency to team up with his villains (as Spidey has a tendency to team up with ANYTHING) to combat other threats. Though it's usually portrayed in a personal grudge way and not just a, "We're both New Yorkers, so we stick together" way. Often enough it's an "Enemy of my enemy is a friend for now," sort of way.

    Spidey and Venom, Spidey and Kaine, Spidey and the Lizard, Spidey and Sandman, Spidey and Jameson, Spidey and the Cat, Spidey and Ock, Spidey and a fire hydrant, Spidey and random bystander #58. Seriously, Spider-Man teams up with anything. There was a miniseries based around this very concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makenzye View Post
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    It also works pretty well to sort of give some insight on how Spidey handles his world. He understands there is a status quo and is willing to temporarily subvert it while fully understanding it's a temporary alliance. He doesn't have any real belief it will change someone at their core. He understands the moment he's done allying himself with Venom he will be trading punches with him the next day.

    A minor spoiler, but in the most recent issue he sort of gave a clean slate to an old foe but pretty much just told him he'll put his ass in line if said villain steps out of it.
    makes me want to restart spider comics, sasuga Mak

    tag me with that plot

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