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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
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    I feel like you people have no idea how to differentiate between playing homage to something and plagiarism.
    What's the difference if Mashima did base Gildarts off of Shanks and Oda basing characters he made off of movie characters?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    What's the difference if Mashima did base Gildarts off of Shanks and Oda basing characters he made off of movie characters?
    Thanks for proving my point.


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    I'm asking what the difference is


    Assuming Mashima based Gildarts off of Shanks, how's that any different than basing characters off of other peoples work?


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    Gildarts is obviously his own character


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    Gildarts was based off of the Hajime no Ippo Creator.


    His second design was based off of Ned Stark


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ink Spot View Post
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    Don't you ignore the question at hand


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    A homage is something that's done to pay respect to a certain work, it's in almost all cases based on classic work due to how widespread and recogniseable they are.

    Copying something that came out in the same timeframe, in the same medium, while not being well enough known by the general public to be instantly recognised or without having the authors consent should it be a lesser known work and is done on good tides, is plagiarism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
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    A homage is something that's done to pay respect to a certain work, it's in almost all cases based on classic work due to how widespread and recogniseable they are.

    Copying something that came out in the same timeframe, in the same medium, while not being well enough known by the general public to be instantly recognised or without having the authors consent should it be a lesser known work and is done on good tides, is plagiarism.
    And how would Gildarts be a copy?

    Shanks game out 9 years earlier and the two act nothing alike.


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    You are actually hopeless. Well I don't have time to argue semantics with you while you provide nothing to the discussion for hours either way.

    However, One Piece could in fact be considered iconic enough to just throw in a reference in a work and call it a homage, frankly. The problem in this case is how the two series stand to each other.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
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    You are actually hopeless. Well I don't have time to argue semantics with you while you provide nothing to the discussion for hours either way.

    However, One Piece could in fact be considered iconic enough to just throw in a reference in a work and call it a homage, frankly. The problem in this case is how the two series stand to each other.

    >It's only an homage when the series I like does it



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    >It's only an homage when the series I like does it

    Rax. This is exactly why nobody likes arguing with you. You resort to strawmans and other fallacies almost instantly.

    Oh well. Have a good day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    Don't you ignore the question at hand
    why not? we've gone over this plenty of times fam

    did you know that Oda paid tribute to Hiro Mashima?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
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    You are actually hopeless. Well I don't have time to argue semantics with you while you provide nothing to the discussion for hours either way.

    However, One Piece could in fact be considered iconic enough to just throw in a reference in a work and call it a homage, frankly. The problem in this case is how the two series stand to each other.
    There is nothing remotely plageristic about Gildarts other than lose of arm and little scuffle


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    Quote Originally Posted by COV View Post
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    There is nothing remotely plageristic about Gildarts other than lose of arm
    I have never even adressed the Shanks and Gildarts case yet the both you jump on it, continuing to make this a 'BUT MUH SERIES' case. All I did is gave you the definition and even gave you a justification for why Gildarts could in fact be considered a homage.

    Both of the series did that kind of a thing a couple time, but all you two assume is that people want to talk smack. It's honestly gotten really, really sad how incredibly defensive this has gotten.

    But yeah, I'm done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
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    Rax. This is exactly why nobody likes arguing with you. You resort to strawmans and other fallacies almost instantly.

    Oh well. Have a good day.
    You're literally just going with "Mashima doing it makes it a rip off. He's not allowed to make homages."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    You're literally just going with "Mashima doing it makes it a rip off. He's not allowed to make homages."

    I haven't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ink Spot View Post
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    why not? we've gone over this plenty of times fam

    did you know that Oda paid tribute to Hiro Mashima?
    By copying the GMG into Dressrosa?

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    I haven't.
    You have been.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    By copying the GMG into Dressrosa?


    no, it was with one specific character


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