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    Strongest general Keisha can beat

    100k vs 100k at Bayou.

    Both sides have their usual troops and subs (so Keisha has Kinmou and Gakuei, as well as his cavalry).

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    on a good day karin / gokei / gohoumei

    chances get better the smaller the armies get


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    adding usual subs is really disadvantageous for Keisha since his subs aren't special.

    anyway, for a start he should be able to win vs Ordo since it doesn't have much mountain terrain where Ordo is excel at. Not sure who else though...

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    adding usual subs is really disadvantageous for Keisha since his subs aren't special.
    Not my fault that's the army Hara gave him

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    With Kinmou and Gakuei he probably cant even lead 100'000 men properly...

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    With Kinmou and Gakuei he probably cant even lead 100'000 men properly...
    He'll obviously have more generals under him if he was leading that amount.

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    He'll obviously have more generals under him if he was leading that amount.
    Of course... but thats not what Pirao says...

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    He'll obviously have more generals under him if he was leading that amount.
    No, that's all he has. Ordo didn't have anyone notable during the coalition and he was leading 120k, Duke Hyou never had any generals under him either, etc.

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    on a good day karin / gokei / gohoumei

    chances get better the smaller the armies get

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    i'll punch you


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    6GG-level characters are outside his reach, but he has a chance to beat some of the Fire Dragons.

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    He'd take Gyou'un or Ordo reliably in these conditions, possibly an FD like Gaimou or Eishi as well (Reiou and Gokei are out of his reach).

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    No, that's all he has. Ordo didn't have anyone notable during the coalition and he was leading 120k, Duke Hyou never had any generals under him either, etc.
    Ordo will have generals and commanders under him, we just didn't see any on panel. Even Kisui had at least one general who was ranked even below Ryuutou and Batei.

    Keisha will have them as well and will be able to lead 100k, even if they're temporary scrub generals.

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    yeah, an army of any considerable size would inherently have several commanders in place in order to facilitate command. they don't really have to be notable personalities.

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    if op isn't just saying those are kei sha's only notable subs, and is limiting kei sha by saying those are the only other generals in his army at all; then he can beat a lot less than he would in ordinary circumstances
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    Ordo will have generals and commanders under him, we just didn't see any on panel. Even Kisui had at least one general who was ranked even below Ryuutou and Batei.

    Keisha will have them as well and will be able to lead 100k, even if they're temporary scrub generals.
    Who did the Duke have? He has whatever generic officers every general normally has, that's it.

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    He will not be able to defeat Gyou'un with same amount of soldiers.
    Ordo also will triumph over Keisha.
    Gaimou probably could get cornered.
    Earl Shi could also get cornered. But in the condition that he still has the will to live, Earl Shi will win.
    And I don't see Reiou and Gokei will lose either if they have the same number.

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    Who did the Duke have? He has whatever generic officers every general normally has, that's it.
    The only time we saw him lead a huge army he did have generals under him - remember the 1 eyed dude that Gokei beheaded. That's just who we saw, there will have been others.

    The point I was making was referring to Keisha apparently not being able to lead 100k men because he only has Gakuei and Kinmou. He will have more in any 100k war even if they're generic guys in the exact same way Gohoumei will have had generals under him during the coalition arc. So Keisha will be able to lead 100k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanki View Post
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    The only time we saw him lead a huge army he did have generals under him - remember the 1 eyed dude that Gokei beheaded. That's just who we saw, there will have been others.

    The point I was making was referring to Keisha apparently not being able to lead 100k men because he only has Gakuei and Kinmou. He will have more in any 100k war even if they're generic guys in the exact same way Gohoumei will have had generals under him during the coalition arc. So Keisha will be able to lead 100k.
    That 1 eyed guy was not General under Duke Hyou directly, but he is a border city's lord

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    And as far as i know, Keisha vassals were only Kinmou and Gakuei

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    That 1 eyed guy was not General under Duke Hyou directly, but he is a border city's lord
    fair enough

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    And as far as i know, Keisha vassals were only Kinmou and Gakuei
    If he is leading 100k, he will get more though. Even if they're temporary vassals.

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    idk why we're stagnating on keisha not being able to lead 100k men with 2 named subs when he was able to lead 120k with 3 named subs



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