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    Pulverizing diamond - redoing the Bakusaiga calc

    So I came across this thread


    https://www.narutoforums.org/threads/fragmentation-value-for-diamond.1118544/



    and was shocked to see we have a clear value for pulverizing diamond


    ue to being "compressed", or pushed at one side with enough force, the diamond in question ends up being shattered.

    Diamond statistics

    • The compressive strength of diamond is said to be >110 Gpa
    • Mpa = J/cc, from this blog, reading from the spoiler section regarding rock.
    • 110 Gpa = 110,000 Mpa = 110,000 J/cc

    This is the compression strength, or the energy required to pulverize diamond into small pieces, although if that diamond remains in large chunks, the value would be less than that.

    But considering that the diamond was already being smashed to pieces when the head of that dragon barely went in, that diamond was probably pulverized in the end.
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    in this calc

    the low end assumes we pulverize common rock - we go with the typical 214j/cc.

    id like to change that to the pulverization value for diamond.

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    early on, diamond spears have been pulverized by the same character who later performs the feat we calc











    but he could not break through the armored shell









    however narakus entire body consists of an even harder form of this armored shell











    its basically:


    diamond < Midseries Sesshoumarus blast with Toukijin < basic armored shell << kinka and ginka blood strenghtened armored shell < EOS Sesshoumarus blast with Bakusaiga


    there are multiple other incidents in the series showcasing, proving and indicating that armored shell >>> diamond in all aspects (starting with stuff like at first not being able to be sliced unlike diamond, not being shattered etc.)

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    there is nothing really to change for the calc. the only difference would be



    low end: 41883881.035 x 1000000 x 214.35 = 8977809899852250 joules

    -> 2.14MT of TnT
    -15% hollowness -> 1.819MT









    turns to:


    low end: 41883881.035 x 1000000 x 110,000 = 4607226913850000000 joules

    -> 1101.15 MT of TnT
    -15% hollowness -> 935.35MT



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    what do you guys think?

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    anyone?

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    Wait, the calc being used is for the destruction of the mountain right? Where does the pulverization value of diamond come into play?(I can't see any scans on NF)

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    Its crazy to me that diamond is that many magnitudes stronger than rock. I thought that kind of material strength disparity only existed in fiction as 'rubironium' or 'dragonsteel' or whatever

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    Wait, the calc being used is for the destruction of the mountain right? Where does the pulverization value of diamond come into play?(I can't see any scans on NF)
    no its used for the destruction of narakus body

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    Quote Originally Posted by R View Post
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    no its used for the destruction of narakus body
    So pulverization of his body results in a near gigaton of energy?

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    So pulverization of his body results in a near gigaton of energy?
    because his body consist of material >> diamond, allowing us to use the required joules/cc for diamond when pulverized.

    yeha its a massive upgrade. however the calc itself actually stands for quite some time now across the OBD, UBD, vsbattles.

    its just that right now i realized we dont have to use rock pulverization because we have a clear value for diamond pulverization

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    >Close to Island Level

    >Still super slow

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    >Close to Island Level

    >Still super slow
    there is not a single worthy speedfeat in the entire run...being mach 2 is generous and the best the series will ever get

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    Quote Originally Posted by R View Post
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    there is not a single worthy speedfeat in the entire run...being mach 2 is generous and the best the series will ever get
    Yeah i know.

    And that suxs.I mean Mach 4 is...

    Well,Speed equal fix that problem.Praise god for this rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by R View Post
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    because his body consist of material >> diamond, allowing us to use the required joules/cc for diamond when pulverized.

    yeha its a massive upgrade. however the calc itself actually stands for quite some time now across the OBD, UBD, vsbattles.

    its just that right now i realized we dont have to use rock pulverization because we have a clear value for diamond pulverization
    Any idea what the the vape value for carbon is?

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    Any idea what the the vape value for carbon is?
    i can give the value for atomization and annihilation. but vape i dont have at hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by R View Post
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    i can give the value for atomization and annihilation. but vape i dont have at hand
    Damn. there's a series I read where a dude made a helium nuclear fusion sun and vaped some carbon blades.

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    Damn. there's a series I read where a dude made a helium nuclear fusion sun and vaped some carbon blades.

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    Not even an island level, huh? You lied to me! Shame on you!!!

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    Not even an island level, huh? You lied to me! Shame on you!!!
    that feat wasnt the one i mention. the island level feat to be calced is non-canon. i linked the video in our discussion

    this here is canon tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by R View Post
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    that feat wasnt the one i mention. the island level feat to be calced is non-canon. i linked the video in our discussion

    this here is canon tho
    The movies aren’t somewhat canon? I always thought that was case.

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    can you show me the scans of volume measured? can't see anything on NF.

    Also, has it been stated that the material spear was made of was in fact diamond?



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    can you show me the scans of volume measured? can't see anything on NF.

    Also, has it been stated that the material spear was made of was in fact diamond?
    yeha sure









    and yeha has been confirmed














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