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    it was a duel where shoumou could not last a single clash, the fact that rinko could lend a blow on him at all is tons more impressive than shoumous showing lol.

    Also, that's not subjective hype, are you saying that rinkos own words about his experience and every other characters hyping up how experienced he is in combat is all a lie, or an empty hype tool? Shoumou cl3srlt didn't have equivalent combat experience lol
    The reason I called it subjective hype because Hara picked and choose how to portray a person base on their opponents.
    Rinko and his Rindou is very impressive and it broke Ouki’s army defense and he even landed a flesh wound on Ouki. But do ya really think Rinko and Ouki dueled after that flesh wound because if he did Hara and Renpa would’ve said it. Compared to Shoumou who had crazy hype himself. Charge Ouki head on and got fodderized.

    If Rinko charged Ouki just like Shoumou did he would’ve been fodderize as well. If Shoumou was fighting Shin instead of Rinko Shin would’ve struggled just the same.


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    Ouki vs Rinko lasted at least as long as Ouki vs Shoumou.
    Rinko attacked Ouki. He landed a blow, and wasn't killed by Ouki. Shoumou attacked Ouki. He was fodderized immediately, and died. Pretty obvious that Rinko is stronger.
    That’s not obvious at all because we know more about the Shoumou clash than the Rinko one. In Shoumou vs Ouki we see each guy charge against each other for the One Hit Kill. Ouki won because he was stronger clearly. We know Rinko’s Rindou gives him momentum and allows him to punch a hole into your Defense. But we don’t know if Ouki charged him like Shin did, or if he just sat their and Rinko cut him on the pass by.

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    Shin vs Shoumou,and the first thing we have see,is shin head flying away from is body.
    you can be sure of that.

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    Rinko and Shoumou vs Ouki situations aren't comparable in the slightest lol. 1 was two charges going up against each other to kill the other instantly, whilst the other was 1 man charging into another who was standing still without even his weapon at the ready.

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    Ordo is rank 93 in strength?
    Are you joking?
    ???
    He did one shot one of Ousen's commanders/generals.

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    Ordo is rank 93 in strength?
    Are you joking?
    ???
    He did one shot one of Ousen's commanders/generals.

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    ???
    He did one shot one of Ousen's commanders/generals.
    That guy is a General?

    Damn,every useless,now can become general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanki View Post
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    Rinko and Shoumou vs Ouki situations aren't comparable in the slightest lol. 1 was two charges going up against each other to kill the other instantly, whilst the other was 1 man charging into another who was standing still without even his weapon at the ready.
    Thank You I agree.

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    ???
    He did one shot one of Ousen's commanders/generals.

    I don't have a problem with Ordo 93. But without knowing how strong that Ousen commander was. That one shot means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcusx8 View Post
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    The reason I called it subjective hype because Hara picked and choose how to portray a person base on their opponents.
    Rinko and his Rindou is very impressive and it broke Ouki’s army defense and he even landed a flesh wound on Ouki. But do ya really think Rinko and Ouki dueled after that flesh wound because if he did Hara and Renpa would’ve said it. Compared to Shoumou who had crazy hype himself. Charge Ouki head on and got fodderized.

    If Rinko charged Ouki just like Shoumou did he would’ve been fodderize as well. If Shoumou was fighting Shin instead of Rinko Shin would’ve struggled just the same.



    That’s not obvious at all because we know more about the Shoumou clash than the Rinko one. In Shoumou vs Ouki we see each guy charge against each other for the One Hit Kill. Ouki won because he was stronger clearly. We know Rinko’s Rindou gives him momentum and allows him to punch a hole into your Defense. But we don’t know if Ouki charged him like Shin did, or if he just sat their and Rinko cut him on the pass by.
    I think we can assume rinko charged ouki had on, how else would he cut him? I'm not saying they dueled, I'm saying he did much better against ouki than shoumou because he did. Shin would struggle with shoumou sure, but he would make an easier wall to over come than rinko.

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    Rinko and Shoumou vs Ouki situations aren't comparable in the slightest lol. 1 was two charges going up against each other to kill the other instantly, whilst the other was 1 man charging into another who was standing still without even his weapon at the ready.

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    ???
    He did one shot one of Ousen's commanders/generals.

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    ???
    He did one shot one of Ousen's commanders/generals.
    they don't need to be exact same situations, the fact is, rinkos feat is a ton better than getting one shotted. He not only cut ouki but also managed to end the battle uninjured or dead, which is equally as impressive. But the problem is, this isn't just a matter of feats, it's a matter of portrayal. Hara letting us know about this was directly for the purpose of making us realize how strong rinko was, whereas Hara portrayed shoumou as being nothing more than overconfident. What exactly happened in his confrontation with ouki is besides the point, the point is, this is hara's way to show how strong he is. A person that can break through Ouki's defense and land a blow on him, you're not gonna find many offensive generals capable of that. Beyond this, hara1 went out of his way to hype up rinko's experience and strength through out the entirety of the Sanyou arc. What happens with shoumou? Quite the opposite. Literally the only reason to think he's any thing of note is the fact that he has a 93 stat, he neither has feats nor portrayal that would put him in the same ballpark as people like rinko, rinbunkun and Ou Hon. The only reason we would even think to compare him to Rinko is because of his 93 stat, so why would we think he's stronger than someone else with a 93 stat that has better feats, hype, portrayal and who we know is a lot more experienced in combat and has more weight? Shou mou's achievements and feats in bayou were no better than mangoku's, his stat is the only reason we know he's actually pretty strong.

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    I think we can assume rinko charged ouki had on, how else would he cut him? I'm not saying they dueled, I'm saying he did much better against ouki than shoumou because he did. Shin would struggle with shoumou sure, but he would make an easier wall to over come than rinko.

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    they don't need to be exact same situations, the fact is, rinkos feat is a ton better than getting one shotted. He not only cut ouki but also managed to end the battle uninjured or dead, which is equally as impressive. But the problem is, this isn't just a matter of feats, it's a matter of portrayal. Hara letting us know about this was directly for the purpose of making us realize how strong rinko was, whereas Hara portrayed shoumou as being nothing more than overconfident. What exactly happened in his confrontation with ouki is besides the point, the point is, this is hara's way to show how strong he is. A person that can break through Ouki's defense and land a blow on him, you're not gonna find many offensive generals capable of that. Beyond this, hara1 went out of his way to hype up rinko's experience and strength through out the entirety of the Sanyou arc. What happens with shoumou? Quite the opposite. Literally the only reason to think he's any thing of note is the fact that he has a 93 stat, he neither has feats nor portrayal that would put him in the same ballpark as people like rinko, rinbunkun and Ou Hon. The only reason we would even think to compare him to Rinko is because of his 93 stat, so why would we think he's stronger than someone else with a 93 stat that has better feats, hype, portrayal and who we know is a lot more experienced in combat and has more weight? Shou mou's achievements and feats in bayou were no better than mangoku's, his stat is the only reason we know he's actually pretty strong.
    I don't think anyone would dispute that Rinko is far above overall and superior in a 1 on 1. He'll have more weight, experience and he also isn't arrogant. In terms of pure, tangible martial ability though, they're very close IMO, albeit different kinds of fighters.

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