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    Ou Sen & Kan Ki vs Ou Ki & Mou Bu

    ou sen & kan ki + each of their full retinue replace the zhao military in the battle of bayou

    ou ki and mou bu's armies are the same as they were during the battle of bayou, except they get actual soldiers instead of conscript soldiers

    ou sen's 120k vs ou ki's 100k

    who wins?

    scenario 2: gyoku hou and gaku ka units join ousen's ranks, and ou ki gets the current hi shin unit
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    I gotta go with Ouki and Moubu in both scenarios.

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    I assume this includes Tou since he's part of Ouki's retinue and was there for the Bayou war. In that case I think it's too much for Kanki and Ousen to try tackling the three of them at once.

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    Ouki Moubu both

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    Ousen and Kanki win if they can get the battle into the forest

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    Ouki and Tou. and Moubu.

    Kanki and Ousen have much to learn still

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    If its current Moubu, Ouki definitely wins but Bayou Moubu could potentially screw the team over like he did in canon

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    Ouki and Moubu duo take it.Tou is too much of a game changer.

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    Ouki/Tou/current Moubu is pretty much game over for the opponent

    But if it's Moubu from Bayou and he does a mistake Ousen would not miss it and capitalize on it to achieve victory.

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    Ousen is already above Ouki. Ousen wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
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    Ousen is already above Ouki. Ousen wins.


    Just because you had a good one yesterday doesn't mean you get to talk shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zentos View Post
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    Just because you had a good one yesterday doesn't mean you get to talk shit.
    Well, Ousen does have Ouki beat in leadership and knowledge so

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoflaMihawk View Post
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    Well, Ousen does have Ouki beat in leadership and knowledge so
    Say that again and I'll have you beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zentos View Post
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    Say that again and I'll have you beat.

    Gently, yet hard.
    I'm just saiyan, all Ouki has over him is brute strength.

    He's like Gaimou in this situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoflaMihawk View Post
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    I'm just saiyan, all Ouki has over him is brute strength.

    He's like Gaimou in this situation
    Really, you gonna do this?

    Ousen has an edge in table top strategy and that's it. The moment Ouki takes the field it's over.

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    Ouki is pound for pound the WSG in the manga, fuck is this shit about Ousen beating him?

    The only thing Ousen has Ouki beat at is that his offspring is better than Ouki's, and that's just cause Ouki never got to stick it into Kyou.

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    this is ou sen. the man compared to the qin six's former leader haku ki and said by ko shou to have been strategically comparable to the 6 six even years before the stories beginning.

    he definitely isn't definitively below ou ki.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokio View Post
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    this is ou sen. the man compared to the qin six's former leader haku ki and said by ko shou to have been strategically comparable to the 6 six even years before the stories beginning.

    he definitely isn't definitively below ou ki.
    He wasn't compared or said to be comparable to Hakuki, only that their style of warfare is similar.

    Ouki is the greatest of the Q6, just being comparable to them in general isn't enough, considering we have fatsos like Oukotsu around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan View Post
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    He wasn't compared or said to be comparable to Hakuki, only that their style of warfare is similar.

    Ouki is the greatest of the Q6, just being comparable to them in general isn't enough, considering we have fatsos like Oukotsu around.
    pretty much the same thing, for all intents and purposes. considering how closely he said their styles resembled.

    haku ki was the one lauded by both ren pa and kyou en to be the hardest to deal with. don't think ou ki was ever said to be the greatest of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokio View Post
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    pretty much the same thing, for all intents and purposes. considering how closely he said their styles resembled.

    haku ki was the one lauded by both ren pa and kyou en to be the hardest to deal with. don't think ou ki was ever said to be the greatest of them.
    not.... really? having the same style doesn't necessarily imply they're of a comparable level, both Yotanwa and Ordo are mountain warriors who fight with mountain men, yet Yotanwa would eat him for breakfast.

    shin's instinct seems to be based on the same style as Duke's, yet Duke would smash him any day of the week.

    ten's style of strategy is literally a carbon copy of SHK, but comparing the two of them is a laughable thing.

    im pretty sure he was said to be the best, back when he was said to be the "Monstrous Bird of Qin".

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