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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    Why? Because you asked a disingenuous question? This stuff really isn’t as convoluted as you’re making it out to be. You have yet to explain why my statement about a deistic universe making more sense is flawed in any way.
    Because youre knowingly misrepresenting me, avoiding my questions and refusing to back up your claims

    Youre a fucking disgrace






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    Because youre knowingly misrepresenting me, avoiding my questions and refusing to back up your claims

    Youre a fucking disgrace
    I want to answer your question, but you’re refusing to make it clearer. Then I ask if you have any examples of the phenomena you mentioned, and you start flaming me. How am I the disgrace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    I want to answer your question, but you’re refusing to make it clearer. Then I ask if you have any examples of the phenomena you mentioned, and you start flaming me. How am I the disgrace?
    The question is as clear as it can be. You know exactly what youre doing right now, so don't fucking try to act like you've got the highground.






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    The question is as clear as it can be. You know exactly what youre doing right now, so don't fucking try to act like you've got the highground.
    Okay, do you want to flame or continue the debate? I have no problem with the former.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    Okay, do you want to flame or continue the debate? I have no problem with the former.
    the ball is in your court. You've got a claim to back up and a question to answer, we'll proceed from there






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    the ball is in your court. You've got a claim to back up and a question to answer, we'll proceed from there
    You don’t seem to understand how this works.

    Your question makes no sense. Give me two examples: one of a universe created by a god, and one of a universe not created by a god. If you don’t give me a frame of reference, then I can’t answer your question. You’re in too abstract a realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    You don’t seem to understand how this works.

    Your question makes no sense. Give me two examples: one of a universe created by a god, and one of a universe not created by a god. If you don’t give me a frame of reference, then I can’t answer your question. You’re in too abstract a realm.
    That is completely irrelevant to my question.

    YOU ARE THE ONE who claimed that a created universe makes more sense than a naturally occurring one. I'm asking you to substantiate that statement.

    Youre just wasting my time






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    That is completely irrelevant to my question.

    YOU ARE THE ONE who claimed that a created universe makes more sense than a naturally occurring one. I'm asking you to substantiate that statement.

    Youre just wasting my time
    Of course it makes more sense. If the universe wasn’t designed, then why does it even exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    Of course it makes more sense. If the universe wasn’t designed, then why does it even exist?
    What sort of question is that?

    You cant even distinguish between a designed and un-desinged universe, and whether or not we know the answer to that question is irrelevant to whether your claim is valid






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    What sort of question is that?

    You cant even distinguish between a designed and un-desinged universe, and whether or not we know the answer to that question is irrelevant to whether your claim is valid
    If it can’t be answered, then why are you asking me to answer it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    If it can’t be answered, then why are you asking me to answer it?



    Crooked ReX strikes again.
    You fucking dumb cunt

    If you concede my point, then when are you trying to argue that the universe WAS designed when you cant verify your claim.

    I said we don't know the answer to why the universe exists, but this does not mean by default that it was created. That is an assertion that needs to be proven.






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    You fucking dumb cunt

    If you concede my point, then when are you trying to argue that the universe WAS designed when you cant verify your claim.

    I said we don't know the answer to why the universe exists, but this does not mean by default that it was created. That is an assertion that needs to be proven.
    Explain how something exists without being created. I’m genuinely curious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    Explain how something exists without being created. I’m genuinely curious.

    What has this got to do with anything?

    By created I mean magically brought into existence by some god like youre saying. You bear the burden of proof






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    What has this got to do with anything?

    By created I mean magically brought into existence by some god like youre saying. You bear the burden of proof
    No, I don’t. The fact that our universe exists means that it was created. Whether or not you think it was created by “nothing” or a god doesn’t change the fact that it was created. Anyone with a little sense knows that’s it’s more likely to be created by something than nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    No, I don’t. The fact that our universe exists means that it was created. Whether or not you think it was created by “nothing” or a god doesn’t change the fact that it was created. Anyone with a little sense knows that’s it’s more likely to be created by something than nothing.
    That's a false dichotomy. Please explain what you mean by the term "created"






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    That's a false dichotomy. Please explain what you mean by the term "created"
    Created means created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    Created means created.
    Tautology.

    Stop wasting my time cunt






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    Tautology.

    Stop wasting my time cunt
    I’m sorry you don’t know what the word created means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    I’m sorry you don’t know what the word created means.
    I'm sorry you cant debate for shit






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    I'm sorry you aren’t falling into my obvious traps
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