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    Natsu Dragneel Vs. Meruem

    Summary: The "Fire Dragon Slayer" Natsu Dragneel Vs. the "Ant King" Meruem.

    Version: l Meruem (Post Rose) l Dragonforce Natsu (Tartaros Arc)
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    >Tartarus DF Natsu

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    Interesting matchup.

    I take it that Natsu stays in Dragon Force during the whole fight, correct?

    Natsu in Dragon Force should be around small city level, while post-Rose Meruem is in the high town level.

    Because of the strength advantage, I'd say Natsu takes this. It will be close though. Meruem is quite skilled as far as I know, evening the odds in the battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Torch View Post
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    Interesting matchup.

    I take it that Natsu stays in Dragon Force during the whole fight, correct?

    Natsu in Dragon Force should be around small city level, while post-Rose Meruem is in the high town level.

    Because of the strength advantage, I'd say Natsu takes this. It will be close though. Meruem is quite skilled as far as I know, evening the odds in the battle.

    >Small city level
    >Was trashing Etherious Mard Geer



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    >Small city level
    >Was trashing Etherious Mard Geer

    Natsu's strongest Dragon Force attack just scratched Mard Geer. Mard Geer was fine after it.

    Besides, Natsu's Dragon Force should be equal to Gray's Devil Slaying, which was small city level due to the calc.

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    Natsu should win via being faster, stronger and more powerful then Meruem by this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Torch View Post
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    Natsu's strongest Dragon Force attack just scratched Mard Geer. Mard Geer was fine after it.

    Besides, Natsu's Dragon Force should be equal to Gray's Devil Slaying, which was small city level due to the calc.

    He was blitzing, overpowering, and causing Mard to spit up blood.

    >Small city level DeS Gray



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    He was blitzing, overpowering, and causing Mard to spit up blood.

    >Small city level DeS Gray

    In Tartaros he was small city level, yes.

    Where do you think he is?

    (Also, since when are you using hestons? )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Torch View Post
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    In Tartaros he was small city level, yes.

    Where do you think he is?

    (Also, since when are you using hestons? )

    > Base 1 handed Mard Geer was mountain level
    >Gray is somehow small city level



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    Natsu wins. Base version of him would be a better match for Meruem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax View Post
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    > Base 1 handed Mard Geer was mountain level
    >Gray is somehow small city level



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    But yeah, this thread brings up a question I wanted to ask for a long time.

    What are Natsu's stats in Tartaros. The UBD Profile says that he's small city level, but doesn't really specify what version of him.

    Is it base Natsu? LFD? Dragon Force?

    My guess is Dragon Force, but I would like to know in more detail

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    But yeah, this thread brings up a question I wanted to ask for a long time.

    What are Natsu's stats in Tartaros. The UBD Profile says that he's small city level, but doesn't really specify what version of him.

    Is it base Natsu? LFD? Dragon Force?

    My guess is Dragon Force, but I would like to know in more detail
    Base Natsu during Tartaros arc is town - town+, Lightning Flame Dragon Mode is unknown since he hasn't used it since Tenrou arc, and Natsu with Dragon Force is probably city level at best as he could slightly damage Mard Geer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jörmungandr View Post
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    Base Natsu during Tartaros arc is town - town+, Lightning Flame Dragon Mode is unknown since he hasn't used it since Tenrou arc, and Natsu with Dragon Force is probably city level at best as he could slightly damage Mard Geer.
    So basically how I thought it is. Thanks for the clear up!

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    Base Natsu SV Arc/Tartaros Arc is Small City Level.He is above Townlevel

    GMG Arc Natsu was Townlevel
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    Natsu obliterates.






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    Natsu stomps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Torch View Post
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    But yeah, this thread brings up a question I wanted to ask for a long time.

    What are Natsu's stats in Tartaros. The UBD Profile says that he's small city level, but doesn't really specify what version of him.

    Is it base Natsu? LFD? Dragon Force?

    My guess is Dragon Force, but I would like to know in more detail
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    Base Natsu during Tartaros arc is town - town+, Lightning Flame Dragon Mode is unknown since he hasn't used it since Tenrou arc, and Natsu with Dragon Force is probably city level at best as he could slightly damage Mard Geer.
    i'ma actually go ahead and contradict this

    base natsu would be small city scaling from a feat gray performed in the sun village arc

    lfd would be likely city. obviously a substantial increase from his base form and based on how effortlessly he was able to pummel the 9 demon gates in that form he could arguably scale to jellal.

    natsu with dragon force would be city+. he didn't only slightly damage mard, he blatantly overpowered him by a large margin for the brief moment he was able to maintain the form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokio View Post
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    i'ma actually go ahead and contradict this

    base natsu would be small city scaling from a feat gray performed in the sun village arc

    lfd would be likely city. obviously a substantial increase from his base form and based on how effortlessly he was able to pummel the 9 demon gates in that form he could arguably scale to jellal.

    natsu with dragon force would be city+. he didn't only slightly damage mard, he blatantly overpowered him by a large margin for the brief moment he was able to maintain the form.

    The feat was city level, not small city level.


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    i'ma actually go ahead and contradict this

    base natsu would be small city scaling from a feat gray performed in the sun village arc

    lfd would be likely city. obviously a substantial increase from his base form and based on how effortlessly he was able to pummel the 9 demon gates in that form he could arguably scale to jellal.

    natsu with dragon force would be city+. he didn't only slightly damage mard, he blatantly overpowered him by a large margin for the brief moment he was able to maintain the form.
    Let's see I agree with base Natsu being on that level. He was stronger than Gray since the beginning of the series after all.

    From what I remember, none of the Nine Demon Gates (aside from Mard Geer) has shown anything on that level. Not even Silver, who's one of the strongest Tartaros members. I get where you're coming from, however it's not impossible to defeat an opponent who's on the same level as you with no actual problem. Therefore, I can't agree with you.

    Could you remind me what makes Mard Geer's durability city level? I'm pretty sure he wasn't directly attacked by the Celestial Spirit King, and Mard matching CSK's strikes and piercing his amor with thorns would only apply to his DC. Leaving that aside, if Natsu with Dragon Force was scaled from Gray piercing Mard Geer, then I have to say he shouldn't scale. Gray's attacks are more potent against demons, so putting Natsu on the same level is probably wrong.

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    I don't see how Natsu really loses this fight.


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