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Ace's DC without his devil fruit is really low though. He shouldn't be able to dish out city level attacks physically.

Only his durability is city level. And Natsu would keep getting amped up and getting his stamina regained due to Ace's fire, which would put Natsu's stamina in the fight > Ace's stamina.

Not sure Natsu could amp up to the Tenrou Island LFD level, since he'd have to absorb a fucking lot of fire to do that.

Still, they both can't really hurt each other.
He was able to beat Jinbei before he even joined the WB pirates. Jinbei who could phiysically touch him. So Ace is obviously pretty strong in h2h combat and easily city+. Gmg Natsu is getting stomped.