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    there you go. now its TTs
    Now it feels like a true Rax thread

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    You'd probably have more chance of it being accepted with the call stacking.

    Funny that.

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    You'd probably have more chance of it being accepted with the call stacking.

    Funny that.
    So I use the in feat time frame and it's wrong because...?


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    There were tiny white clouds far off in the distance after it all settled down, yes, but that doesn't change the feat seeing as there's clear evidence of cloud parting.

    I already said the speed is debatable. We already saw Natsu strikes at that point breaking the sound barrier. I was using a low balled attack speed for a reasonably low end.

    And no, using speed calcs for DC stuff IS allowed. It's generally how KE and PE calcs go.
    No?
    They're almost directly overhead, we're looking at them from an upwards vantage point.



    And Natsu had time to fall to the ground along with the rest of the rubble.

    So A. Your timeframe is bunk.
    And B. He didn't disperse nearly as much as you're claiming.
    There's no evidence the clouds spanned from horizon to horizon like you're claiming. You would need to see the clouds disappearing beyond the horizon to make that claim, which doesn't exist.

    You need to scale Iku to the hole above him, and that hole to the clouds and then adjust the timeframe accordingly.

    Too many flaws as is.

    As far as the calc stacking.
    No. We don't apply calculated speed to DC.

    It's why teraton meteors for Fujitora and 40GT for Irene don't fly.

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    So the clear sky with orange sunlight coming down exists... why?

    I'm claiming he dispersed all of the clouds that were gathered by Iku

    This has a clear time frame shown from what was going on. Now you're just going to try and make up some 10 minute ridiculous time frame that is utter nonsense, completely ignoring the layout of the scenario like with Irene's meteor.

    Double the time frame for Natsu falling all the way down if it makes you feel better


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    So the clear sky with orange sunlight coming down exists... why?

    I'm claiming he dispersed all of the clouds that were gathered by Iku

    This has a clear time frame shown from what was going on. Now you're just going to try and make up some 10 minute ridiculous time frame that is utter nonsense, completely ignoring the layout of the scenario like with Irene's meteor.

    Double the time frame for Natsu falling all the way down if it makes you feel better
    Maybe the sunlight coming down from above him is because the clouds above him have been dispersed. Shocking I know.

    I know exactly what you've done. If you weren't claiming the clouds were spanning the horizon you wouldn't have used DtH. But what I'm saying is that there's no evidence they were that large.
    There's multiple panels proving the opposite however.

    Looking directly up, after Iku has been fully summoned and we can see the outer edge of the clouds.



    Another upwards view and we can see the outer edge again.



    Again, another upwards view point where we can see almost the entirety of the clouds summoned along with Iku.



    Look at that, multiple panels that disprove the notion that the cloud is over 200km in size. There's a couple more but I'm sure everyone else gets the point.

    Stop being a fuckwit the moment someone disagrees with you, this is why no one has the patience to deal with you and ignores your shit. I'm saying that by the time the rest of the rubble and Natsu hit the ground the clouds hadn't been fully dispersed.
    So that's the proper timeframe that needs to be used.

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    In the small hole if you were directly under it and looking straight up

    This was on the ground and looking at it from a severe angle that was showing far further out than the hole that was above Iku




    It all took place in the middle of the day. The sky was black and obviously covered


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    @Numinous One;

    So the reason Irene's Meteor calc isn't accepted is because we apply speed to DC?

    But what about the OBD? Do they also not accept it?

    Also, why exactly is that a flawed method? Just curious

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    @Numinous One;

    So the reason Irene's Meteor calc isn't accepted is because we apply speed to DC?

    But what about the OBD? Do they also not accept it?

    Also, why exactly is that a flawed method? Just curious
    Calculated speeds are subjective and can change with minor details, hardly set in stone.

    So applying those previous calculations as the foundation for another calculation is asking for erroneous results

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    You're ignoring my points


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    Quote Originally Posted by Numinous One View Post
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    Calculated speeds are subjective and can change with minor details, hardly set in stone.

    So applying those previous calculations as the foundation for another calculation is asking for erroneous results
    Get back in here and finish discussing this with.

    I bet it'll still be juicy even if you double the time frame to appease the leltier mangs


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    So I can repeat the points that you ignore and try to handwave with lelmang.

    No thanks

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    Why the hell have this thread 5 Stars?

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    well this has been sorted out


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