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    If two swordsman fight then the winner is clearly the better swordsman, how can Zoro be the better swordsman if he loses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
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    If two swordsman fight then the winner is clearly the better swordsman, how can Zoro be the better swordsman if he loses?
    Because one of the swordsmen can out stat the other with beater feats despite the fact they are outclassed in experience.

    So in other words who would win Luffy or Batman it is simple Luffy due to having better stats so Batman can't do anything to him by vastly being weaker than him.

    Only just being smarter in the long run.

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    Erza is a better swordsman than Zoro



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax, Hero Of A New Era View Post
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    Erza is a better swordsman than Zoro
    Zoro: Combat genius (developed the sword styles he utilizes (including Santoryu, which is a style unique to him) by himself and grows at a very fast rate, at times even improves notably in the middle of battle), perceptive and adept fighter (quick to grasp the rhythm of battle and applying himself accordingly to gain benefit by the developments) and a man of canny tactical ability (has on more than one occasion pulled through with a victory with smart thinking), is, much like his captain, he's as thick as a plank outside of battle however and has an amazingly poor sense of direction (i.e. climbing up buildings when told to go north and getting lost in a straight hallway).

    Erza:
    Erza is an infamously powerful mage, having become an S-Rank Mage of Fairy Tail at the tender age of fifteen, and regularly takes on S-Class Missions described as being so dangerous that a single mistake could mean instant death. While she's skilled with a variety of weapons, she heavily prefers the use of swords, being skilled enough to use both a conventional and reverse grip and can even wield blades with her toes when restrained. She is also an expert hand-to-hand combatant, easily grappling both Natsu and Gray, the former of whom is an equally infamous brawler, to end their disputes and interspersing it into her swordplay to catch foes off guard. Furthermore, she also possesses a keen intellect, methodically picking apart the abilities and limitations of Midnight's Reflector Magic to psyche him out before nullifying it completely with a special robe.

    One actually was trained while the other was self thought and Zoro was trained by Mihawk "The Best Swordsmen in The World".
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    >Erza can fight with swords between her toes



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax, Hero Of A New Era View Post
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    >Erza can fight with swords between her toes
    Yeah that is comparable to someone that has already created multiple sword fighting styles including ones that can only benefit him improving them on a fast rate in battle which he incredibly utilises.

    All what Erza has done with her toes is nothing it only shows she has great skill utilising her body parts to fight with swords something Zoro can pick up on when he grasps the rhythm of her fighting ability.

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    Erza is more skilled than Zoro overall, but Zoro is a more skilled swordsman.

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    I don't see how some one who was self trained is a better swordsman than someone who defeat several dojo swordsmen and was also trained by the world strongest man.

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    >Erza can fight with swords between her toes
    Doesnt make her more skiilled. Miihawk used a tiny knife to embarrass Zoro who was using three swords

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    Erza is more skilled than Zoro overall, but Zoro is a more skilled swordsman.
    In what aspect is she more skilled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOAA View Post
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    I don't see how some one who was self trained is a better swordsman than someone who defeat several dojo swordsmen and was also trained by the world strongest man.

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    Doesnt make her more skiilled. Miihawk used a tiny knife to embarrass Zoro who was using three swords

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    In what aspect is she more skilled?
    Her skill in using multiple weapon types efficiently.
    You're all...so small

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    Her skill in using multiple weapon types efficiently.
    Like i said, that doesnt make her more skilled. Zoro uses three swords efficiently yet he isnt more skilled than Mihawk. Your statement is literally what Hachi said when he was fighting an injured Zoro with six swords, thinking more swords meant he was better than Zoro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax, Hero Of A New Era View Post
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    Erza is a better swordsman than Zoro
    Haha no.

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    The topic itself is entirely subjective. In my opinion Ikaruga doing this:


    is more impressive than anything Zoro has ever done in terms of "swordsmanship" but you probably have a different opinion on how swordsmanship is scored. It's no different to arguing whether the P4P best is Demetrious Johnson or George Saint Pierre.

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    Haha no.
    Yeah she is. Zoro ain't nothing special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarrotCake View Post
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    Yeah she is. Zoro ain't nothing special.


    She very clearly isn't. Zoro has training from Mihawk, Zoro is very clearly more skilled than Erza. Erza was never meant to be an amazing swordsman to begin with. She revolves more around versatility and brute strength. Meanwhile Zoro is actually meant to be a great swordsman.


    That's like me saying that Natsu is more skilled than Garou and Iron Fist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
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    The topic itself is entirely subjective. In my opinion Ikaruga doing this:


    is more impressive than anything Zoro has ever done in terms of "swordsmanship" but you probably have a different opinion on how swordsmanship is scored. It's no different to arguing whether the P4P best is Demetrious Johnson or George Saint Pierre.
    So your saying it is more impressive than dealing with 6 swords at once, cutting a giant mountain sized statue in half, creating multiple sword styles unique to only him and the fact a the best swordsmen in the world saw his potential bothering to train him for 2 years. Besides training people like Vista who is skilled enough to fight the Admirals who at this point have more experience in fighting everyone in FT.

    All what the girl is doing is showing how good is her precision and reactions are nothing to suggest she is master swordsmen like Zoro.
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    I don't see Zoro losing to Erza at all. It's gonna be like her fights with Kagura and Ikaguya, except changing into the fire pants will be of her own doing. Besides they have done this fight on deathbattle (Though before the meteor feat)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOAA View Post
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    Like i said, that doesnt make her more skilled. Zoro uses three swords efficiently yet he isnt more skilled than Mihawk. Your statement is literally what Hachi said when he was fighting an injured Zoro with six swords, thinking more swords meant he was better than Zoro
    ...I'm pretty sure Erza is way more skilled than hachi lol. She doesn't just swing her weapons around. She actually knows how to use them. Zoro is the more skilled swordsman, but the more generally skilled warrior is definitely Erza atm. And I don't mean by alot. Its a thin margin
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    Erza has shown to be able to fight with all different kinds of swords, far more than Zoro.

    She's clearly more skilled in swordsmanship.


    Plus Knights are cooler than Samurais



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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
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    The topic itself is entirely subjective. In my opinion Ikaruga doing this:


    is more impressive than anything Zoro has ever done in terms of "swordsmanship" but you probably have a different opinion on how swordsmanship is scored. It's no different to arguing whether the P4P best is Demetrious Johnson or George Saint Pierre.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax, Hero Of A New Era View Post
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    Erza has shown to be able to fight with all different kinds of swords, far more than Zoro.

    She's clearly more skilled in swordsmanship.


    Plus Knights are cooler than Samurais
    All that means she knows are range of weapons to use correctly while Zoro could master them given a short amount of time by the soul point he can develop his own fighting styles dealing with a vest range of enemies.

    Take a note developing fighting styles takes time coming up with many combinations of moves and tactics however Zoro can has grown in a fast rate to master every single one of them. Something way better than using different types of wepons having no proper fighting style at all.

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