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    Quote Originally Posted by Meng Hao View Post
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    There is nothing to debate in this thread.

    Whitebeard's Quake wins this



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    If you're going to compare anything of Big Mom's to Whitebeard's it should've been Spear of Elbaf. Cognac was nothing in comparison to a quake from Whitebeard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Whitebeard View Post
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    What makes you think Big Mom is on a whole other level when Whitebeard's feats and hype are clearly superior?
    One's a Yonkou the other's dead

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    WB was an active yonkou. The strongest of them.
    'Was' being the key word. He wasn't strong enough to keep his position unlike Big Mom. She's clearly superior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlton dos Santos View Post
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    'Was' being the key word. He wasn't strong enough to keep his position unlike Big Mom. She's clearly superior.
    Aww what a shame. You started out so promisingly






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    Aww what a shame. You started out so promisingly
    People with autism are losers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlton dos Santos View Post
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    People with autism are losers
    I agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlton dos Santos View Post
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    People with autism are losers
    Wow, what an insightful remark. That first post you submitted on here was very well formulated and had me thinking that youd go on to establish yourself as a quality poster in the future, but sadly, pretty much everything else has been pure garbage

    Evidently, you are a loser






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    One's a Yonkou the other's dead

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    'Was' being the key word. He wasn't strong enough to keep his position unlike Big Mom. She's clearly superior.

    Whitebeard went up against the most powerful force in the OP world, that's why he lost. Roger is dead, I guess Big Mom is stronger than him. That is the worst argument one could bring. Come back to me when Big Mom tanks what Whitebeard went through and nearly knockes an Admiral out when half dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Whitebeard View Post
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    Whitebeard went up against the most powerful force in the OP world, that's why he lost. Roger is dead, I guess Big Mom is stronger than him. That is the worst argument one could bring. Come back to me when Big Mom tanks what Whitebeard went through and nearly knockes an Admiral out when half dead.
    Knocked* please use correct spelling, it's very disrespectful to me as a fellow debater when you cannot even show the courtesy to proofead your messages and instead you half-ass your posts. Thanks in advance.

    Whitebeard went up against the most powerful force and lost. This is a poor argument because okay Buggy went against Mihawk and lost it doesn't mean anything lol. Maybe Big Mom will lose slightly less than Whitebeard, and she would lose less badly as I will go on to succinctly and effectively prove through advancing logical computation.

    The argument doesn't apply for Roger, as while Roger is also dead he was the Pirate King though so that proves he's the strongest in the series. Oda has consistently hyped up that title to be the most prestigious in the world. On the other hand Whitebeard himself said he didn't try to become Pirate King showing that he recognizes that he is not strong enough to attain that, considering how proud and strongwilled Whitebeard is to not have scars on his back that says something. It says that he's definitely not strong enough while Big Mom is still trying to get the title showing that she's strong enough to have that ambition and she's at least more capable than Whitebeard.

    Also, Whitebeard sustained bullet injuries in the war, hundreds of them proving the bullets were individually not outliers, he's genuinely too weak. Compare that to Big Mom who unless vulnerable, cannot be harmed by bullet fire. Durability wise she outstrips Whitebeard by far. So yeah she could tank what Whitebeard took, considering her size she could probably eat up Akainu's fists. And Whitebeard lost half his face to Akainu and that's the thing. He was half dead and now he's full dead but Akainu is fine now. Akainu realized he had to plan long term so he brilliantly crippled Whitebeard before fleeing even while paralyzed by Whitebeard's attacks, demonstrating both incredible superiority as a strategist over the senile Newgate and frightening martial prowess.

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    I agree.
    but lets be honest here, youre a scummy piece of shit with next to no redeeming characteristics, so your opinion has no merit






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    Knocked* please use correct spelling, it's very disrespectful to me as a fellow debater when you cannot even show the courtesy to proofead your messages and instead you half-ass your posts. Thanks in advance.

    Whitebeard went up against the most powerful force and lost. This is a poor argument because okay Buggy went against Mihawk and lost it doesn't mean anything lol. Maybe Big Mom will lose slightly less than Whitebeard, and she would lose less badly as I will go on to succinctly and effectively prove through advancing logical computation.

    The argument doesn't apply for Roger, as while Roger is also dead he was the Pirate King though so that proves he's the strongest in the series. Oda has consistently hyped up that title to be the most prestigious in the world. On the other hand Whitebeard himself said he didn't try to become Pirate King showing that he recognizes that he is not strong enough to attain that, considering how proud and strongwilled Whitebeard is to not have scars on his back that says something. It says that he's definitely not strong enough while Big Mom is still trying to get the title showing that she's strong enough to have that ambition and she's at least more capable than Whitebeard.

    Also, Whitebeard sustained bullet injuries in the war, hundreds of them proving the bullets were individually not outliers, he's genuinely too weak. Compare that to Big Mom who unless vulnerable, cannot be harmed by bullet fire. Durability wise she outstrips Whitebeard by far. So yeah she could tank what Whitebeard took, considering her size she could probably eat up Akainu's fists. And Whitebeard lost half his face to Akainu and that's the thing. He was half dead and now he's full dead but Akainu is fine now. Akainu realized he had to plan long term so he brilliantly crippled Whitebeard before fleeing even while paralyzed by Whitebeard's attacks, demonstrating both incredible superiority as a strategist over the senile Newgate and frightening martial prowess.
    You see that you prove your own argument wrong. Buggy went on against the same force and didn't lose anything. Therefore if Whitebeard is dead and he is not, Buggy is stronger? Flawed logic.

    Whitebeard is also the strongest in the series up to his death. He is introduced as the strongest man in the world and has unrivalled hype as the only man who was capable of fighting equally with Roger and the man closest to One Piece. He was the strongest of all the Emperors.

    I don't know why you would bring up the argument that Big Mom wants to become the Pirate King and Whitebeard doesn't. Roger even wanted to tell him the location of Raftel but Whitebeard said he wasn't interested. It is clear Whitebeard was never interested in treasures or becoming the pirate king. All he wanted was a family. And again this is flawed logic. Luffy wants to become the pirate king but it doesn't mean he is stronger than Whitebeard. After Roger's death Whitebeard could clearly claim the pirate king title and crush every opponent in his way.

    Durability=/=overall strength. Remember the other Emperor who lost an arm to a sea serpent? Or Garp who was bleeding because he was punched by pre-skip Luffy? Whitebeard took so much and continued to fight. Are we gonna pretend now that Akainu wasn't injured from that island splitter? Even if we disregard Akainu, wasn't Whitebeard the dude that overpowered one of the strongest Warlords, Blackbeard? Quite convenient to leave out certain facts.

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    but lets be honest here, youre a scummy piece of shit with next to no redeeming characteristics, so your opinion has no merit
    You have autism.


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    You have autism.
    and im still better than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Whitebeard View Post
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    You see that you prove your own argument wrong. Buggy went on against the same force and didn't lose anything. Therefore if Whitebeard is dead and he is not, Buggy is stronger? Flawed logic.

    Whitebeard is also the strongest in the series up to his death. He is introduced as the strongest man in the world and has unrivalled hype as the only man who was capable of fighting equally with Roger and the man closest to One Piece. He was the strongest of all the Emperors.

    I don't know why you would bring up the argument that Big Mom wants to become the Pirate King and Whitebeard doesn't. Roger even wanted to tell him the location of Raftel but Whitebeard said he wasn't interested. It is clear Whitebeard was never interested in treasures or becoming the pirate king. All he wanted was a family. And again this is flawed logic. Luffy wants to become the pirate king but it doesn't mean he is stronger than Whitebeard. After Roger's death Whitebeard could clearly claim the pirate king title and crush every opponent in his way.

    Durability=/=overall strength. Remember the other Emperor who lost an arm to a sea serpent? Or Garp who was bleeding because he was punched by pre-skip Luffy? Whitebeard took so much and continued to fight. Are we gonna pretend now that Akainu wasn't injured from that island splitter? Even if we disregard Akainu, wasn't Whitebeard the dude that overpowered one of the strongest Warlords, Blackbeard? Quite convenient to leave out certain facts.
    Buggy is not stronger than Whitebeard lol, just because you postulate it as a rhetorical question doesn't make it true.

    Titles don't mean anything really. Note how Jinbe's fist was called 5000 brick breaker. But if it could only break 5000 bricks how could it hurt anyone in the series? See therefore relying on titles is flawed logic and unreliable.

    He fought with Roger equally? Who said that, Whitebeard? Obviously Whitebeard would say something like that because he has a reputation to protect. It's the same with Buggy pretending to be strong even though deep down you and I and the audience all know he is not that powerful, its all a reputation thing. Do you really think Mihawk and Shanks caused the Grand Line to shake when they fought? They are strong but not that strong.

    It's funny how you bring up Roger telling Whitebeard where Raftel is. You're just proving that Whitebeard is not strong enough to find it himself and he needs to rely on the true strongest man, Roger, to provide him the location secrets. And how do you know he's not interested? You don't know Whitebeard or what Oda intended for him, maybe he was interested too bad he's dead now because he wasn't strong enough to survive. You have him as an avatar clearly you are a biased stan for Whitebeard which corrupts your perception of the character.

    Luffy wants to be the Pirate King because he has the potential to be stronger than Whitebeard. Potential is very important. See a sleeping person. Because this person is not conscious and not thinking you could say this person is like a corpse right? But it still has rights because it has the POTENTIAL to become a person again once he wakes up. So you can't just stab this corpse. Morally potential is very important but as you can see here it's also a valuable logical afterthought.

    Shanks wasn't as strong back then, he wasn't recognized by mountain bandits in the store. Now he's stronger the Sea Serpent would probably die and not be able to bite his arm. Garp was bleeding because he let Luffy hit him. Do you think Whitebeard wanted to get shot by bullets at Marineford? No, but he still got shot by them. Whitebeard took alot and continued to fight but he would have died eventually because he was missing a face. Akainu was injured by the island splitter yes but at least he has a face. If he ran away Whitebeard would die from faceless bleeding.

    Blackbeard is not one of the strongest Warlords. He's the weakest, since even Whitebeard could beat him.

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    I really wanna know who's dupe he is.

    Anyways, quake punch, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    this cunt is clueless
    He's not he's just biased for Whitebeard, look at his username. But don't worry through logic we can prove him wrong once and for all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlton dos Santos View Post
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    He's not he's just biased for Whitebeard, look at his username. But don't worry through logic we can prove him wrong once and for all
    Hey, dumbfuck, I was talking about you






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    Buggy is not stronger than Whitebeard lol, just because you postulate it as a rhetorical question doesn't make it true.

    Titles don't mean anything really. Note how Jinbe's fist was called 5000 brick breaker. But if it could only break 5000 bricks how could it hurt anyone in the series? See therefore relying on titles is flawed logic and unreliable.

    He fought with Roger equally? Who said that, Whitebeard? Obviously Whitebeard would say something like that because he has a reputation to protect. It's the same with Buggy pretending to be strong even though deep down you and I and the audience all know he is not that powerful, its all a reputation thing. Do you really think Mihawk and Shanks caused the Grand Line to shake when they fought? They are strong but not that strong.

    It's funny how you bring up Roger telling Whitebeard where Raftel is. You're just proving that Whitebeard is not strong enough to find it himself and he needs to rely on the true strongest man, Roger, to provide him the location secrets. And how do you know he's not interested? You don't know Whitebeard or what Oda intended for him, maybe he was interested too bad he's dead now because he wasn't strong enough to survive. You have him as an avatar clearly you are a biased stan for Whitebeard which corrupts your perception of the character.

    Luffy wants to be the Pirate King because he has the potential to be stronger than Whitebeard. Potential is very important. See a sleeping person. Because this person is not conscious and not thinking you could say this person is like a corpse right? But it still has rights because it has the POTENTIAL to become a person again once he wakes up. So you can't just stab this corpse. Morally potential is very important but as you can see here it's also a valuable logical afterthought.

    Shanks wasn't as strong back then, he wasn't recognized by mountain bandits in the store. Now he's stronger the Sea Serpent would probably die and not be able to bite his arm. Garp was bleeding because he let Luffy hit him. Do you think Whitebeard wanted to get shot by bullets at Marineford? No, but he still got shot by them. Whitebeard took alot and continued to fight but he would have died eventually because he was missing a face. Akainu was injured by the island splitter yes but at least he has a face. If he ran away Whitebeard would die from faceless bleeding.

    Blackbeard is not one of the strongest Warlords. He's the weakest, since even Whitebeard could beat him.
    So many points wrong...Whitebeard not being equal to Roger in his prime? Really? For the record it was Buggy who said it after he witnessed their duels in the Grand Line.

    Titles are the author's word. If someone is introduced with a box from the author, then whatever is written there is canon.

    Just cause I have Whitebeard in my avatar doesn't mean I'm biased towards him. And again, Whitebeard being equal to Roger automatically places him as the most suitable candidate for the title after Roger's death. Also it wasn't Whitebeard the one asked. Roger offered to tell him himself.

    Potential has nothing to do with what we're discussing.

    Whitebeard while half dead can injure an Admiral severely. Big Mom's Cognac attack failed to do the same with Jinbe, who is much weaker. Which is the stronger attack?

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    Buggy is not stronger than Whitebeard lol, just because you postulate it as a rhetorical question doesn't make it true.

    Titles don't mean anything really. Note how Jinbe's fist was called 5000 brick breaker. But if it could only break 5000 bricks how could it hurt anyone in the series? See therefore relying on titles is flawed logic and unreliable.

    He fought with Roger equally? Who said that, Whitebeard? Obviously Whitebeard would say something like that because he has a reputation to protect. It's the same with Buggy pretending to be strong even though deep down you and I and the audience all know he is not that powerful, its all a reputation thing. Do you really think Mihawk and Shanks caused the Grand Line to shake when they fought? They are strong but not that strong.

    It's funny how you bring up Roger telling Whitebeard where Raftel is. You're just proving that Whitebeard is not strong enough to find it himself and he needs to rely on the true strongest man, Roger, to provide him the location secrets. And how do you know he's not interested? You don't know Whitebeard or what Oda intended for him, maybe he was interested too bad he's dead now because he wasn't strong enough to survive. You have him as an avatar clearly you are a biased stan for Whitebeard which corrupts your perception of the character.

    Luffy wants to be the Pirate King because he has the potential to be stronger than Whitebeard. Potential is very important. See a sleeping person. Because this person is not conscious and not thinking you could say this person is like a corpse right? But it still has rights because it has the POTENTIAL to become a person again once he wakes up. So you can't just stab this corpse. Morally potential is very important but as you can see here it's also a valuable logical afterthought.

    Shanks wasn't as strong back then, he wasn't recognized by mountain bandits in the store. Now he's stronger the Sea Serpent would probably die and not be able to bite his arm. Garp was bleeding because he let Luffy hit him. Do you think Whitebeard wanted to get shot by bullets at Marineford? No, but he still got shot by them. Whitebeard took alot and continued to fight but he would have died eventually because he was missing a face. Akainu was injured by the island splitter yes but at least he has a face. If he ran away Whitebeard would die from faceless bleeding.

    Blackbeard is not one of the strongest Warlords. He's the weakest, since even Whitebeard could beat him.
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