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    "4HK level"

    Who is at that level? Not above or beneath, but someone who could make it a 5HK and be in line with the others, ability wise - assuming you think all 4 are similar.

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    Bananji deserve a spot right there atm.

    Ouhon and Mouten more than qualify.

    Rinbukun and Seikai should be at that level too.




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    Current new gen I think

    Rinbukun/Seikai level should qualify too. I would say that Rokuomi and Ryuukoku too
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    I would say that Rokuomi and Ryuukoku too
    Do you think they've improved a lot then?

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    Do you think they've improved a lot then?
    Well we got hinted in that way, Rokuomi i.e aint so far from Rinbukun level so he should make the minimum bar to HK level

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    Akou/Makou should make it too no?

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    Well we got hinted in that way, Rokuomi i.e aint so far from Rinbukun level so he should make the minimum bar to HK level

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    Akou/Makou should make it too no?
    I have a hard time imagining Makou/Akou to be HK level when the Ouki commanders were said to be quite a bit weaker than the latter as of the Sanyou Arc

    Maybe in some ways they would rival them, but not as an overall package. I mean Akou's specialty is head on offense, but would he clash evenly with Kaishibou who also specializes in that?

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    Problem is that the HK set such a high standard in terms of hype and feats for vice generals (though the only ones that actually deliver in panel are Rinko and Genbou) that is hard for others to catch up.

    Even in the coalition you dont see subs reach such level except for Karin.

    But being Tou a great general and so the one who will take charge in conquering a state, his subs will need to rise to at least that much I think. Same for Akou, some of Kanki's and the new gen

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    Also, isn't he above them?

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    I thought we were only counting the living.

    Also, isn't he above them?
    OP didn't say so

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    Based on stats 4HK = 268-269
    Dead Commanders aren't included
    4HK level
    Kaiouku = 270
    Ouhon = 270
    Kyoukai = 269
    Mouten = 268

    Potential
    Kisui = 266
    Gaimou = 262(lol)
    Rukoumi = 262
    Ryuukoku = 262
    Kanjou = 262
    Futei = 262
    Rihaku = 260
    Beiman = 260

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    Problem is that the HK set such a high standard in terms of hype and feats for vice generals (though the only ones that actually deliver in panel are Rinko and Genbou) that is hard for others to catch up.

    Even in the coalition you dont see subs reach such level except for Karin.

    But being Tou a great general and so the one who will take charge in conquering a state, his subs will need to rise to at least that much I think. Same for Akou, some of Kanki's and the new gen
    Qin is already ridiculously overpowered with 6 Riboku-level guys and 3 young talents set to become even stronger than that

    None of Qin's generals require a Renpa/Ouki-level army for Qin to conquer China.

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    I think Teppei would be perfect in terms of abilities and fighting power though I do think he's slightly stronger than the other Heavenly Kings Eos as his potential is just higher than the rest aside from Toriko. Aimaru would be another good fit aside from that I have trouble placing people there due to their potential and growth rate. I wouldn't necessarily but Starjun there since I believe him and Toriko are clearly a cut above the rest even more so than Teppei.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derylsharpe View Post
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    I think Teppei would be perfect in terms of abilities and fighting power though I do think he's slightly stronger than the other Heavenly Kings Eos as his potential is just higher than the rest aside from Toriko. Aimaru would be another good fit aside from that I have trouble placing people there due to their potential and growth rate. I wouldn't necessarily but Starjun there since I believe him and Toriko are clearly a cut above the rest even more so than Teppei.
    This is about Kingdom HK dude

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    I think Teppei would be perfect in terms of abilities and fighting power though I do think he's slightly stronger than the other Heavenly Kings Eos as his potential is just higher than the rest aside from Toriko. Aimaru would be another good fit aside from that I have trouble placing people there due to their potential and growth rate. I wouldn't necessarily but Starjun there since I believe him and Toriko are clearly a cut above the rest even more so than Teppei.
    That's Kingdom thread, mate.

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    This is about Kingdom HK dude
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    That's Kingdom thread, mate.
    My bad guys I remember when Toriko used to be in this section, only read the bio not the comments

    My feels right now

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    Gyou Un and Chougaryuu are apearantly on that level.
    Rinbukun based on stats and feats was HK-level, or at least close.
    Kisui could be too, although I'm not sure since his performance in this arc was rather lacking.
    Kaioku is HK-level based on stats and his position.
    Bananji based on hype could be slithly above.
    Qin young commanders are recently geting GG-level feats, so now they are probably above.
    Rokuomi and Ryokaku are not there, since back in Sanyou Arc they were stated to be quite below.

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    Qin is already ridiculously overpowered with 6 Riboku-level guys and 3 young talents set to become even stronger than that

    None of Qin's generals require a Renpa/Ouki-level army for Qin to conquer China.
    I know Qin is overpowered, but let's not go that far.

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