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  1. #21
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    Well based off what Capone said about katakuri seeing into the future is not a normal application of CoO.

    Might of read a bad translation though
    Might be a bad translation because otherwise, that was pretty much the staple of Observation, right? Back on Skypiea, one of the main reasons the Priests were so difficult to deal with was because they knew what you were going to do before you did it. Same thing with the Sandersonia sisters and then Luffy experienced that back during the War of the Best and also saw that he'd lost his arms to Mihawk if he attacked him. Even knowing a person's location was a staple of Mantra. Knowing a person's strength was newest piece of information regarding Observation and we've known that since right before the time skip. It just seems weird to me that one of the first things about Observation that we learned is now being treated as if it's super special. Again, Katakuri can see little bit further than normal but it hasn't come off as a much more advantageous version compared to what the Priests or Enel had, for example.

    That said, even though things are progressing pretty quickly, I'm assuming we have a while yet until the appointed time though there's always time to speed things up. Luffy is in a perfect position to get away and meet the others (doubly so since now he knows that the enemy knows of their plan) but it sounds like he wants to beat Katakuri before he leaves the territory.
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    Well that's a lot better then having chapters devoted to Luffy running while recharging.
    Agree.

    But that means not i like the chapter

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    Chapter was better than the spoilers made it seem. Yet I still don't want to see Liffy winning against Katakuri. Would be fine if he just improves his CoO but doesn't win. Also why should Katakuris haki be running out when he can just rest like Luffy does atm and we know that Luffys time limit is way shorter than his.

    I liked the Sanji and Capone part though. I wonder how they will transport the cake to Big Mom now that they are surrounded.


  4. #24
    Sanji was impressive this chapter finally. And chapter was really good despite the spoilers like always.
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    well if we're being honest. Luffy usually spiked.

    Hard fights were pretty much accepted to be what made Luffy grow the most up until now (before Haki), it's just been spelled out and has been given in-universe grounding. While yes, now that Oda has went out of his way to actually present it this way it does open the door to a very famous writers cop-out.

    Here's hoping he won't abuse it.
    Yeah, totally agree. The problem I think that I and so many people are upset about is that he's going from barely beating a handicapped Dofla to being at a level right below highest tier in the manga. That's a huge jump. A really unbelievable one, and that's just irksome.

    The real issue is yeah what you said. G2 and 3 were presented after YEARS of in-universe grounding, and they felt earned. Cheers to that. Abusing it will be real upsetting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 120 View Post
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    Agree.

    But that means not i like the chapter
    Well that's okay.

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    Also weird how Observation is being handled now. I mean, it always showed you the future. Granted, Katakuri's was a bit more advanced in that it gave you a glimpse a few extra seconds even more than usual but Observation always showed you the future so Luffy's comment just sounds really odd.
    Normal application of CoO doesn't show you the future, it shows you a person's intention.
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  8. #28
    oh boy finally Sanji is starting to look good again with blitzing on Oven.

    Bege is just the fuckin star of the show this whole damn arc. He shot the dude right in the head from is own ship quite a decent distance away. I guess observation haki is really Bege’s specialty, and it’s the Fujitora type CoO. Very impressive. Oven couldn’t even see it coming


  9. #29
    This chapter was great. Was fun to read.

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    Saw someone on NF saying that Oda is setting up BM's crew to be defeated but not mama herself.

    I like that idea, the one who has no business going down goes down later, the ones who actually can go down goes down, only concern is how much WCI will be dragged for if so but maybe the fighting will actually be entertaining enough to the point where prolonging the arc won't matter. Also hopes the crew actually gets to shine before they go down, would be lame if everyone just goes down now and we never really got to know them.

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    I liked this one. Bege boss again, Sanji finally showing a bit of what he can do. 4/5 for me

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    I was very impressed with how Oven endured two direct hits to the face and the page where Luffy resolves to defeat Katakuri was badass, but everything else about this chapter sucked.

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    nothing much happened.

    But Bege


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    That was a very good Speed feat from Sanji

    Calling it a cheap shot is a disservice. A fighter worth their sakt should've been able to react to it had Sanji not been more superior.

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    Normal application of CoO doesn't show you the future, it shows you a person's intention.
    Wasn't that part of it though? Mantra users could react to what you would do before you did it which was why it was so difficult to handle. Luffy beat it against Enel when he made sure that his attacks were random. So far we haven't seen anyone try that on Katakuri but when he gets flustered he can lose Observation like the Mantra users. But we also have things like Luffy knowing he'd lose his arms against Mihawk and Enel catching Luffy's arms mid-gatling, an inherently random attack in which Luffy doesn't necessarily know where his arms are going but of course has their destination in mind. I might just be misunderstanding the power though.

    Yeah, Bege has been gold the entire arc and the Big Mom pirates? I honestly don't see how they'll keep their influence after this fiasco. It has to be the most embarrasing and damaging thing to ever befall a Yonkou.
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    well if we're being honest. Luffy usually spiked.

    Hard fights were pretty much accepted to be what made Luffy grow the most up until now (before Haki), it's just been spelled out and has been given in-universe grounding. While yes, now that Oda has went out of his way to actually present it this way it does open the door to a very famous writers cop-out.

    Here's hoping he won't abuse it.
    I hope it doesn't turn into another Luffy vs Crocodile / Enel. Oda should know better by now.


  17. #37
    Capone just keeps stealing the show. That gun of his was packing some serious firepower, it looks like Oven got blasted in the face by a cannon, though with Capone's ability it is possible he had a cannon formed into a makeshift handgun only he could use. Luffy was sounding an awful lot like Goku at the end there and I'm not sure I like that.

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    Oda really shot himself in the leg by implementing CoO. Now he can't make cheap shots happen without hate coming..

    And yes Sanji blitzing Oven before anyone seen him including Oven is a bullshit.

    It hyped Sanji's tho. I really wonder how fast he actually is. Kizaru vs Sanji fight will be glorious..
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    Grasping for air is much worse than losing half of the head.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga show´s it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Yes Fujitora is one of the fastest characters in the world if you did not know well you learned something today.
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    Zoro>Vergo>Smoker>Sanji
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

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    Every CoA is hardening but not every hardening is CoA
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    I was expecting some bullshit after reading the spoilers, but it was actually an alright chapter.

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    Oda really shot himself in the leg by implementing CoO. Now he can't make cheap shots happen without hate coming..

    And yes Sanji blitzing Oven before anyone seen him including Oven is a bullshit.

    It hyped Sanji's tho. I really wonder how fast he actually is. Kizaru vs Sanji fight will be glorious..
    Sanji was always one of the fastest Strawhats, I don't see why him blitzing pretty much an irrelevant member of the Big Mom Pirates would be considered as bullshit.

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    maybe we'll finally see the mink's trump card with the full moon out. got a feeling carrot will fight compoté or smoothie. if luffy beats katakuri then he oda might as well go all out with carrot beating smoothie. it would make for a hilarious shitstorm.

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