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    there is no evidence that Zoro can't easily solo Katakuri using ashura

    Cracker will be a 1shot

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    there is no evidence that Zoro can't easily solo Katakuri using ashura
    there's no evidence that proves you're not gonna die within the next couple of mins by a heart attack.
    such statement makes 0 progress, HMM.

    is there any evidence that he can solo him with Ashura is the question, and the answer is no.

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    At this point of the story I think the duo can hash it out, especially seeing how cracker and the WCI pirates underestimate their opponents despite saying they take them seriously.

    -On a side note Luffy=/=Zoro. He's always been stronger always will be else what's the point of having the title "Pirate King" and fighting the most powerful antagonists?

    that's underestimating Ginbe far too much, don't you think so?

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    Asura isn't a fucking fighting mode like gears. These Zoro wankers will never learn.

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    They clearly are too afraid to even think of actually challenging Mihawk
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    He was talking about PHYSICAL distance across the ice.
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    Zoro > Luffy
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    Blackbeard doesnt have CoC

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    who actually gives a shit about Mihawk's title
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    Erkan is definitely making a strong point here.
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    BM wins midd to high diff.

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    To add something to the Daz Bones vs Luffy debate, what Luffy had shown before is very different from injuring a man entirely made of steel. Best exemplified by the fact that Zoro was already able to easily cut through swords before fighting him


    Still he couldn't put a scratch on Daz until the very end


    Also regarding Ennies Lobby I'd like to point out that Zoro did have a handicap against Kaku as he had been fighting him and Jyabura at once while protecting Usopp (and Jyabura even said that Usopp was safe while he was bound to Zoro), that the difference in Kaku and Jyabura was bigger than the douriki suggested as Kaku was also the best swordsman of the bunch and made a much better use of his recently acquired fruit and that Zoro and Sanji ended their fight in much better conditions that Luffy. I feel that people seem to equate Luffy to Jyabura, Zoro to Kaku and Luffy to Lucci and draw conclusions as to how they stake up based on the dourikis of those three which overestimates the difference between Luffy and Zoro and Sanji at the time. Luffy did pull out for a time when he invented the gears, but he was not twice as strong as the other two as some seem to be suggesting


    On topic I think Cracker takes this

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    To add something to the Daz Bones vs Luffy debate, what Luffy had shown before is very different from injuring a man entirely made of steel. Best exemplified by the fact that Zoro was already able to easily cut through swords before fighting him


    Still he couldn't put a scratch on Daz until the very end


    Also regarding Ennies Lobby I'd like to point out that Zoro did have a handicap against Kaku as he had been fighting him and Jyabura at once while protecting Usopp (and Jyabura even said that Usopp was safe while he was bound to Zoro), that the difference in Kaku and Jyabura was bigger than the douriki suggested as Kaku was also the best swordsman of the bunch and made a much better use of his recently acquired fruit and that Zoro and Sanji ended their fight in much better conditions that Luffy. I feel that people seem to equate Luffy to Jyabura, Zoro to Kaku and Luffy to Lucci and draw conclusions as to how they stake up based on the dourikis of those three which overestimates the difference between Luffy and Zoro and Sanji at the time. Luffy did pull out for a time when he invented the gears, but he was not twice as strong as the other two as some seem to be suggesting


    On topic I think Cracker takes this
    Because Hatchi is using swords with a low level quality? Unlike Arlong's Kiribachi?

    Don Krieg's armor was a special Wootz steel.



    Unless you prove that Daz's steel is harder than the Don Krieg's Wootz steel armor, it's fucking obvious that Luffy would break Daz Bones's armor with ease. Not to mention, destroying the hundreds meters of Alabasta rock over Crocodile? You got to be kidding me to think that Luffy couldn't break Daz's steel...



    While Luffy could break 2 buildings in the same situation, Zoro couldn't even break a chimney and he had to use his sword to break it.

    This is Zoro.





    This is Luffy.



    The difference in strength between Luffy and Zoro is extremely large. Luffy with only sheer strength consistently beats the opponents that far stronger than Zoro who couldn't even match with his swords. Such as Crocodile, such as Lucci, such as Doflamingo.
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    I agree with the speed and reaction part, but when did Cracker show offensive power that Zoro couldn't match? He managed to get past Luffy's haki but even then did a pretty superficial cut and couldn't hurt Luffy the next time. Do you think Zoro couldn't get through Luffy's busoshoku?
    A superficial cut? He almost cut off Luffy's arm and the next time he couldn't cut through Luffy because he was Tankman. Otherwise, he had no issue cutting through G4 which not even Doflamingo could do. As for Zoro, no, he couldn't get through G4's armament defense save for his largest of moves (like Great Thousand Worlds) and even then I'm not completely sure.

    That said, I meant overall offensive might. The way Cracker overpowered and ramrodded Luffy is not something that Zoro or Jinbei could ever hope to do right now. Even though most, including myself, believe that Zoro can beat G2/G3 Luffy it'll still be a difficult fight. There's no way Zoro or Jinbei would be able to stand up to Cracker's offensive game and Jinbei would fair even worse than Luffy if he has to defend against Cracker's onslaught. With Cracker being so dominant, I don't see how either one fighter will be able to effectively put him down before he's able to defeat one (betting on Jinbei since he doesn't even have swords to defend himself and Luffy's armament game is certainly better than the fishman's), leaving the other to fight on their own which will of course quickly end in defeat.
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    Asura isn't a fucking fighting mode like gears..
    Sure because doing a single punch with a big arm (elephant gun) is more of a "mode" than turning into a 9-armed demon using multiple named attacks

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