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  1. #81
    Fun Chapter.

    This reminds me a little of the Lucci fight. Luffy is getting better at dodging Katakuri's attacks, but he's still getting his ass kicked, so I don't really see how that makes Kata look bad. Luffy will probably just pop G4, do some damage, and then grab Brulee and escape.

  2. #82
    I don't see why this makes katakuri bad.
    yea luffy is dodging katakuris attacks and so did sanji. bege stated that katakuri might see future but everybody has a chance to change it
    like Rayleigh told fluffy to develop all three haki. he might not be on katakuris level in observation haki but at least he got something and its not like katakuri travels at the speed of light to land every single hit. like gatling comes off of multiple directions and luffy got hit but a trident thrust is pretty precise or at the least directed which makes it easier to dodge
    plot armor ? seriously

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    Everything will be settled during next chapters I suppose

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    I think the chapter was alright. That one line from Katakuri left a bad taste in my mouth, but hopefully it was a mistranslation or something.
    How can you be okay with this? A FM with "godly" CoO not being able to get a hit on base Luffy? Even being frustrated?

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    How can you be okay with this? A FM with "godly" CoO not being able to get a hit on base Luffy? Even being frustrated?
    I didn’t say I was okay with it. In fact, I kinda said the opposite. The line is the only thing that would make us think Katakuri was actually trying to hit Luffy, so I’m hoping the line is a mistranslation.
    No.​

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jörmungandr View Post
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    Nothing really happened in this chapter. Katakuri is still stomping Luffy. I have no idea how Luffy is going to win against him. Please, Oda, don't fuck this up. Luffy dodging Katakuri's attacks is kind of bullshit.

    Alright chapter, I guess.
    Why that means that Coo of Luffy is that damn good. I like that as the fact, he should still lose but suprise Katakuri where he recognizes he will be a huge threat in the future.

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    If Luffy does manage to hit katakuri, it will be nothing short of terrible writing on odas part. We know for a fact that cracker, someone who is confirmed to be weaker than him never took a single hit from g4, so for the sake of power level consistency, luffy isn't going to make any headway unless he reveals a new mode or powerup
    Cracker is a defensive type, what makes you think Dogtooth, yes dogtooth, just to piss a few of you off, is the same fighting type. Maybe Luffy has good observation haki as well...

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    If Luffy does manage to hit katakuri, it will be nothing short of terrible writing on odas part. We know for a fact that cracker, someone who is confirmed to be weaker than him never took a single hit from g4, so for the sake of power level consistency, luffy isn't going to make any headway unless he reveals a new mode or powerup
    Cracker is a defensive type, what makes you think Dogtooth, yes dogtooth, just to piss a few of you off, is the same fighting type. Maybe Luffy has good observation haki as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimp of Pimps View Post
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    I didn’t say I was okay with it. In fact, I kinda said the opposite. The line is the only thing that would make us think Katakuri was actually trying to hit Luffy, so I’m hoping the line is a mistranslation.
    The chapter, by extension, is not "alright". Of all the things he could have trouble with, he's having trouble with hitting him. It's not even funny. Germa 66 was good and so was Tamago. The Luffy part? Atrocious.

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    Wrote a post on the Big Mom pirates questionable portrayal at NF that i thought would be worth sharing here aswell:

    The reason we are having these problems is because we entered a yonko island too early so now they need to hold the Big Mom pirates back so they don't cause the end for the straw hats. Obviously Oda can't avoid having them fight the most important members on a main yonko island since it would be weird if they just stayed hidden and having them fight only side members could bore the readers so that's why we are having them fight people like Katakuri, Big Mom and Cracker still.

    In the future arcs there will be no need for any holdbacks as the straw hats and co will be strong enough so they can just naturally fight strong opponents so i don't think we will have same problem there.

    I'm still skeptical off Katakuri actually being defeated for good and Big Mom obviously won't go down.

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    How can you be okay with this? A FM with "godly" CoO not being able to get a hit on base Luffy? Even being frustrated?
    You shouldn't get too caught up in power scaling man. While it might be a little bit of a blow to your suspension of disbelief, IMO being too focused on power scaling can often diminish your appreciation of the manga's other elements.

    If anything both revere and despise the fact that Oda pretty much made a whole lot of nothing this week feeling like alot more than it is, lol.

  10. #90
    Paper Drawing: Rubber

    What do you think.. ?

    Luffy combined his Armament Haki with his Devil Fruit in his fights with Doflamingo and Cracker (who both had exceptional Armament Haki but relatively normal levels of Observation Haki, if any at all).

    But, this time it's Katakuri and he's an Observation Specialist with typical levels of Armament Haki prowess (for one of Luffy's opponents). Needless to say, his mightiest asset is his Observation Haki.

    So, what if Luffy combined Observation Haki with his Devil Fruit ability to perform Paper Drawing: Rubber?

    That might sound odd-- since he can do this under normal circumstances. However, I believe in most cases Paper Drawing (the basic one) can't be performed while moving or in the air. However, Fukuro performed it mid-air using an advanced form called Paper-Drawing: Slime.

    So, I was thinking.. if the problem is that Katakuri can't hit Luffy. And, Luffy's only barely managing to dodge the hits.. he could potentially increase his dodge chance and exploit that to win the fight instead of combining the Armament Haki with his Devil Fruit hoping to just take the blows or something.

    I'd rather not see Tank-Man again for a while. Maybe there could be another form.

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    Actually, the basic move can be performed while moving. I believe there were times when people were seen walking while using it. Though, this might take significantly more effort than while simply standing. So, that may actually only be something that occurs after becoming very good at it.

    But, I believe when Fukuro turned his body into Slime using the technique it was to dodge attacks a normal body couldn't normally dodge. Potentially foreshadowing that stronger characters would gain something similar.

    That is to say, Luffy might be capable of doing that same thing as he's familiar with the technique (he dodged Pacifista beams in a similar way).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimp of Pimps View Post
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    The line is the only thing that would make us think Katakuri was actually trying to hit Luffy, so I’m hoping the line is a mistranslation.
    PoPs still believes top-tiers in One Piece are capable of one-shotting current Luffy... They aren't.

    Cracker comparison isn't the same because Luffy is actually running off from Katakuri, he isn't fighting. It's pathetic. He even tried to hide his pain reaction so his crew couldn't hear. Against Cracker he had to fight, and he wanted to fight. Which is why he get overpowered earlier. He could escape from Cracker anytime he wanted to since he had still stamina to use G4 multiple times.

    Against Katakuri, he gets beating and then he is running. Kata simply wants to finish him off but Luffy is just delaying the inevitable unless somehow he escapes from that room or if someone worthy for Katakuri to arrive and save Luffy.
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  12. #92
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    The chapter, by extension, is not "alright". Of all the things he could have trouble with, he's having trouble with hitting him. It's not even funny. Germa 66 was good and so was Tamago. The Luffy part? Atrocious.
    That's exactly what I'm saying. If it wasn't for that line, we could say Katakuri is just messing with Luffy. That line is the only thing that makes it seem like he's actually trying to hit Luffy.
    No.​

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacup View Post
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    You shouldn't get too caught up in power scaling man. While it might be a little bit of a blow to your suspension of disbelief, IMO being too focused on power scaling can often diminish your appreciation of the manga's other elements.

    If anything both revere and despise the fact that Oda pretty much made a whole lot of nothing this week feeling like alot more than it is, lol.
    I know full well that I'm doing exactly that. If he wants to focus on other things, he can draw a drama, slice of lice or anything else he feels like. If he wants to draw a battle shonen, he better deliver on the battle aspects, otherwise it's not worth my time.

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    That's exactly what I'm saying. If it wasn't for that line, we could say Katakuri is just messing with Luffy. That line is the only thing that makes it seem like he's actually trying to hit Luffy.
    Whether it's one line or a dozen doesn't really make a difference. He's already acknowledged Luffy as a potential threat, yet he's not done with him chapters later. Not only that, he is dodging to the point that it's frustrating. The rest I've already said.

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    Whether it's one line or a dozen doesn't really make a difference. He's already acknowledged Luffy as a potential threat, yet he's not done with him chapters later. Not only that, he is dodging to the point that it's frustrating. The rest I've already said.
    So?

    The entire point of this discussion is that up until that line it was assumed Katakuri was simply playing around with Luffy. Whether or not he should be more serious is another issue entirely that was never a part of this discussion.
    No.​

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    Honestly it's pretty obvious that the plot shield is corrupting this fight imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimp of Pimps View Post
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    So?

    The entire point of this discussion is that up until that line it was assumed Katakuri was simply playing around with Luffy. Whether or not he should be more serious is another issue entirely that was never a part of this discussion.
    Way to go.

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    Way to go.

    You're not making sense.

    Our entire discussion centered around the idea of Katakuri not being able to hit Luffy being ridiculous. Whether or not Katakuri choosing to play around with Luffy is stupid never had a place in our discussion. Why are you even bringing it up?
    No.​

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    How long is BM going to fucking say the same god damn thing over and over again?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rax, The Hero From Beyond View Post
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    How long is BM going to fucking say the same god damn thing over and over again?
    When she finally gets the cake whenever that will be.

  20. #100
    So Germa and the Firetank pirates will be meeting up with the Straw Hats once again before this is all over. It's obvious what the Firetanks are going there for but as for the Germa, what could their next plan be? It's of course more beneficial to work with the only allies they have in enemy territory but what else will their role be here?
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