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    hope so.


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    That plan probably wouldn't work without Shin's strength.

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    Mouten>Shin + Ten combined. Imagine if Mouten had Kyoukai as his sub instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by felixng2015 View Post
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    Mouten>Shin + Ten combined. Imagine if Mouten had Kyoukai as his sub instead
    Imagine if Mouten had Shin, Kyoukai and Ten as vassals

    Tho that's pretty much what we are seeing now
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    Atheists don't even breed!

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    Of course they do, they pick up shit like psychology, philosophy and art, because they can't finish any decent major. They can't contribute to society in any way. Freeloaders, nothing else.
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    Grasping for air is much worse than losing half of the head.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    Ha, yeah. Steven Hawking never did anything to better humanity's place on this earth.
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    There's no such thing as free education. But even if it did exist... it would be awful.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga show´s it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Yes Fujitora is one of the fastest characters in the world if you did not know well you learned something today.
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    Zoro>Vergo>Smoker>Sanji
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    Also we know that BM already defeated Kaido at least once or even twice.
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    No, it has nothing to do with 'imports' or whatever. Half the fault falls on the one being rapped rather than the one rapping. I mean, it's like putting a tasty pizza with mayo on it in front of the hungry you, switch on the quite music, prepare the drinks, and yet ask you no to eat it.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    Every CoA is hardening but not every hardening is CoA
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    I understand you want to pride yourself with my sayings in ur sig but don't overdo it, ur sig reeks shit so it doesn't stand to it.
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    Of course my sig reeks of shit when i have you in my sig.
    DreX "making fun" of serious religion Pastafarianism..

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    Shin this arc in a nutshell


    Mouten though, the MVP of this arc
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    This chapter is very well done by Hara.. Am hyped to see what happened next chapter



    Is there anyone who counts on Shin?
    I'm glad that Mouten and Kyoukai were there to keep Imbecile Shin in check or the whole plan would've been ruined. Shin is so uneducated and stupid beyond human understanding



    Great General Mouten


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    At this point I am hoping Ten dies, her cred is slowly dropping with every chapter to where I would give her 80 int. at this point.

    When it comes to Shin, I understand Hara wants to make him a clown which is fine, why not ruin the main actor, every great writer does it ... However, the thing that bugs me is this, he is so quick on facing anyone like a hot blooded idiot, then why make him sweat bullets? Is he bi-polar? If he is so hot headed he shouldn't be scared, it doesn't make sense, unless he really has a bi-polar personality...

    Mouten at this point is MVP and ahead of Ouhon and Shin, really like his portrayal and growth, which is what I expected from our main disappointment

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    I hate Ten but sweating aside, she understood slightly what Mouten intended to do in some aspects - I don't think there's much to criticize her with here just because she's been grossly overshadowed by a guy who is said to already be equal to Great Generals in some tactical aspects, whose potential amazes even SHK and Mougou and who will become top tier soon enough.

    I think to criticize Ten is to dismiss the situation which Qin were in. If you think she should be able to show better this chapter and last then you must think she should already be at a level comparable with a GG strategist, which is ridiculous IMO.

    Hara often seems to dumb down X to hype up Y but here I don't think it is the case. Bare in mind even Riboku felt the situation was a dead cert Qin loss and he knows about Ten & her abilities.

    This is Mouten hype, not Ten de-hype.

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    I hate Ten but sweating aside, she understood slightly what Mouten intended to do in some aspects - I don't think there's much to criticize her with here just because she's been grossly overshadowed by a guy who is said to already be equal to Great Generals in some tactical aspects, whose potential amazes even SHK and Mougou and who will become top tier soon enough.

    I think to criticize Ten is to dismiss the situation which Qin were in. If you think she should be able to show better this chapter and last then you must think she should already be at a level comparable with a GG strategist, which is ridiculous IMO.

    Hara often seems to dumb down X to hype up Y but here I don't think it is the case. Bare in mind even Riboku felt the situation was a dead cert Qin loss and he knows about Ten & her abilities.

    This is Mouten hype, not Ten de-hype.
    This is me more venting, but as a strategist I would expect her to stay calm and not sweat bullets. If you sweat means you are scared, which makes you not think clearly, most important task of a good strategist, even you can agree with that.

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    Lets form an anti-Ten club

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    I hate Ten but sweating aside, she understood slightly what Mouten intended to do in some aspects - I don't think there's much to criticize her with here just because she's been grossly overshadowed by a guy who is said to already be equal to Great Generals in some tactical aspects, whose potential amazes even SHK and Mougou and who will become top tier soon enough.

    I think to criticize Ten is to dismiss the situation which Qin were in. If you think she should be able to show better this chapter and last then you must think she should already be at a level comparable with a GG strategist, which is ridiculous IMO.

    Hara often seems to dumb down X to hype up Y but here I don't think it is the case. Bare in mind even Riboku felt the situation was a dead cert Qin loss and he knows about Ten & her abilities.

    This is Mouten hype, not Ten de-hype.
    and caught gawking at Mouten

    like, I get what you're saying and the Ten hate does get out of hand a lot of the time but speaking for myself, it's annoying to see Ten just stand there sweating with her monologues as Hara's hype man for Mouten's genius. she's a strategist and if a superior one shows up and takes command of a bad situation she can't tackle, she should be more willing to help than sweat

    well, Hara tends to do that when it's X enemy versus Y friendly but in this case, it's shoving X character aside and forcing them to be awed by Y ally.

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    Lets form an anti-Ten club
    the nein club
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    This is me more venting, but as a strategist I would expect her to stay calm and not sweat bullets. If you sweat means you are scared, which makes you not think clearly, most important task of a good strategist, even you can agree with that.
    Sure, though Kisui was sweating in this chapter too and he's a 90 intelligence. I think the sweating here is Hara showing us how close the situation was from a total catastrophe. Ten could see no way out of it, which isn't that surprising.

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    and caught gawking at Mouten

    like, I get what you're saying and the Ten hate does get out of hand a lot of the time but speaking for myself, it's annoying to see Ten just stand there sweating with her monologues as Hara's hype man for Mouten's genius. she's a strategist and if a superior one shows up and takes command of a bad situation she can't tackle, she should be more willing to help than sweat

    well, Hara tends to do that when it's X enemy versus Y friendly but in this case, it's shoving X character aside and forcing them to be awed by Y ally.

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    the nein club
    oh i agree it's annoying, i was defending her purely on an ability-judgement basis, rather than how much i like her. I wish Gaimou and co had their way with her tbh.

    We all gawked at Mouten <3

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    Mouten definitely is on general Lv (probably GG after this arc)

    I'm really disappointed with Ki'Sui , what's the point in OffScreen him?
    was a great opportunity to demonstrate something relevant, even if it was killing some fodders and giving some opinion about the situation created by mouten. Preferably highlighting his intuitive skills ... would not mind extending the 1st day in 1 more chapter because of that.

    My impression about shin is : probably one of the best vassals in entire series , also one of the worst generals...
    He is really a monster in 1vs1 situation
    if we have someone to guide him to this situation against the opposing commander it can end up being decisive in the whole battlefield

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    "The planning concerning the state of the board...I'm afraid you will have to redo it all"

    Suck it Riboku

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    Mouten definitely is on general Lv (probably GG after this arc)
    Mouten nigga turn a complete loss to a stalemate or better. What he did to save makou army numbers is fuckin brilliant. General level? Nah i think he is at least more than that, MINI GREAT GENERAL maybe.

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    I wish Gaimou and co had their way with her tbh.
    that's going way too far now
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    Have to disagree on one thing

    Shin has been shown confused a lot of time but scared? that I have yet to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascot View Post
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    Have to disagree on one thing

    Shin has been shown confused a lot of time but scared? that I have yet to see.
    Sweating bullets does mean you are scared or very uncomfortable with the situation, but his face expressions and comments back or lack their of points to scared which is stupid since he is a hot blooded beast, which is why I said earlier that he might have bi-polar personality lol

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    Good chapter. Mouten got his time to shine and, man, did he shine. Now Shin and Ouhon have to show something.

    Also, don't fall into the trap Hara has inadvertently set. It's common for him to bring others up by temporarily putting others down. It doesn't mean Shin or Ten are inadequate in reality.
    No.​

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    Sweating bullets does mean you are scared or very uncomfortable with the situation, but his face expressions and comments back or lack their of points to scared which is stupid since he is a hot blooded beast, which is why I said earlier that he might have bi-polar personality lol
    if you mean scared as in "afraid", I don't agree

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    Was there ever a doubt in Mouten being the best from the young generation across all of China? Well it's been put to bed now


    I think Kisui is still alive but from what I can tell their plan was to separate Batei from the rest of the army and cut off his path of escape wasn't it? So maybe Batei is dead. Or Maybe Kisui joining the fray allowed Batei to get away as well.

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