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    Admirals vs Big Momís top commanders

    Akainu vs Katakuri, Smoothie, Cracker, and Perospero

    who wins?

    S2: replace Akainu with Aokiji(crippled)
    S3: replace Akainu with Kizaru



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    Admirals, obviously.


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    Admirable thread they win

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    Akainu ain't winning against 3 Commanders and Perospero

    Let alone Aokiji or Kizaru
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    Of course they do, they pick up shit like psychology, philosophy and art, because they can't finish any decent major. They can't contribute to society in any way. Freeloaders, nothing else.
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    Grasping for air is much worse than losing half of the head.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga showīs it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Zoro>Vergo>Smoker>Sanji
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    Admirals should win. Big Mom is unstoppable to the commanders, so they're not beating people who are at worst a little below her.

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    A single Admiral can't win this, nor can a Yonkou.

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    I doubt an Admiral can take this. Big Mom is considered unstopabble by her crew but there are various factors that contribute to it. Firstly they would never go for the kill against their captain and mother. Secondly they are severly disadvantaged. They have food based powers, weak to fire, water or electricity. Just softening the soldiers gave Luffy a decisive edge against Cracker. Think about mama's huge appetite when she's angry. And lastly the commanders can't just go ham. There's an island to protect and going all out means destroying the island in the fight against Big Mom.
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    Admirals should win. Big Mom is unstoppable to the commanders, so they're not beating people who are at worst a little below her.
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    I doubt an Admiral can take this. Big Mom is considered unstopabble by her crew but there are various factors that contribute to it. Firstly they would never go for the kill against their captain and mother. Secondly they are severly disadvantaged. They have food based powers, weak to fire, water or electricity. Just softening the soldiers gave Luffy a decisive edge against Cracker. Think about mama's huge appetite when she's angry. And lastly the commanders can't just go ham. There's an island to protect and going all out means destroying the island in the fight against Big Mom.
    Excuses.

    The commanders don't have to worry about killing Big Mom or destroying the island, because they don't have the firepower to do so.

    The "they wouldn't attack their mother" excuse is terrible. If Luffy went berserk and killed other SHs, would Zoro and Sanji run away in terror like Smoothie did? Or would they at least try to stall him?

    It's true that the commanders are weak to elemental abilities, but the admirals have elemental abilities too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barreltheif View Post
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    Excuses.

    The commanders don't have to worry about killing Big Mom or destroying the island, because they don't have the firepower to do so.

    The "they wouldn't attack their mother" excuse is terrible. If Luffy went berserk and killed other SHs, would Zoro and Sanji run away in terror like Smoothie did? Or would they at least try to stall him?

    It's true that the commanders are weak to elemental abilities, but the admirals have elemental abilities too.
    Well, they would at least think twice before attacking their own mother. It's not like they would treat her like any other enemy.

    And the elemental advantage is decisive here. They all have food based powers which makes it the worst possible match up. Big Mom can literally eat through their attacks adding to the elemental advantage. Again, if it gave Luffy a decisive advantage, think about how much it would help a hungry Big Mom whose limits to how much she can eat probably far exceed Luffy's.
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    Well, they would at least think twice before attacking their own mother.
    If Luffy were killing other SHs, would Zoro and Sanji think twice before trying to stall him? Would they run in terror?

    And the elemental advantage is decisive here. They all have food based powers which makes it the worst possible match up. Big Mom can literally eat through their attacks adding to the elemental advantage. Again, if it gave Luffy a decisive advantage, think about how much it would help a hungry Big Mom whose limits to how much she can eat probably far exceed Luffy's.
    The elemental advantage may make a difference, but it's fairly minor. I don't see anyone saying "Big Mom is unstoppable only because she's a bad matchup for Katakuri and Cracker". Big Mom is simply vastly above them in strength to the point that trying to fight her is pointless. And again, the admirals have elemental powers too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barreltheif View Post
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    If Luffy were killing other SHs, would Zoro and Sanji think twice before trying to stall him? Would they run in terror?



    The elemental advantage may make a difference, but it's fairly minor. I don't see anyone saying "Big Mom is unstoppable only because she's a bad matchup for Katakuri and Cracker". Big Mom is simply vastly above them in strength to the point that trying to fight her is pointless. And again, the admirals have elemental powers too.
    Different structure of the crew. Strawhats are much like the Roger Pirates where Zoro is close to Luffy and Sanji not that far too. Comparing the two would be inaccurate.

    It isn't only the elemental advantage here. It is futher enforced by the fact that mama can eat insane amounts of food, which is what the commanders' attacks are made of. Only Akainu's magma would classify as a helpful element here.

    Big Mom is called unstoppable because of what she does when she is unstable. Which means wrecking havoc and attacking her children. I explained why Big Mom can fight against the commanders and still hold on her own. That would surely earn her the reputation as unstoppable. I guess it's possible that an Admiral can indeed take this, but for now I find it hard to believe to be honest.
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    If Luffy were killing other SHs, would Zoro and Sanji think twice before trying to stall him? Would they run in terror?
    The gap in strength between Luffy, Zoro and Sanji is way smaller than between BM and her Sweet commanders imo which makes it more possible for the duo to shut down Luffy than the BM crew shutting her down. Then Big Mom is way more hax and can basically one shot you if you show any kind of fear torwards her.


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    There is also the fact that Big Mom has been a monster in her children's eyes since they were born causing them to naturally fear her even if they wouldn't fear other people her level meaning they wouldn't even be able to fight her.

    Also if an Admiral could take this fight (and they couldn't) the Marines should have dealt with Totto Land years ago when they had 5 Admiral Level dues + Mihawk. Just send the 3 Admirals and 10 Vice Admirals to wreck while Sengoku and Garp protects the HQ.

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    There is also the fact that Big Mom has been a monster in her children's eyes since they were born causing them to naturally fear her even if they wouldn't fear other people her level meaning they wouldn't even be able to fight her.

    Also if an Admiral could take this fight (and they couldn't) the Marines should have dealt with Totto Land years ago when they had 5 Admiral Level dues + Mihawk. Just send the 3 Admirals and 10 Vice Admirals to wreck while Sengoku and Garp protects the HQ.
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    Candyman is a non factor against admirals and I don't see cracker making any difference either, but the top 2 Sweet commanders should be strong enough to get home against an admiral.

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    Rex thinking 2 top commanders are enough to put down an admiral when this happened





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    Rex thinking 2 top commanders are enough to put down an admiral when this happened



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