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    Strongest servant of each class

    Who's the top of their class?

    Grand servants/Candidates, CCC and SF are excluded for obvious reasons
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    Saber - Suzuka/Rama
    Archer - Gilgamesh
    Lancer: Enkidu
    Rider: Quetzalcoatl
    Caster: Merlin, if he does not count then idk, not many strong casters
    Assasin: Semiramis with HGoB... Normally.... Shuten?
    Berserker: Cu Alter or TLoD Vlad

    Edit: Did not notice the SF not included part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhaul View Post
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    Saber - Richard/Suzuka
    Archer - Gilgamesh
    Lancer: Enkidu
    Rider: Quetzalcoatl
    Caster: Merlin, if he does not count then idk, not many strong casters
    Assasin: Zealot
    Berserker: Cu Alter or TLoD Vlad
    Read the OP very carefully


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    Quote Originally Posted by Featherine View Post
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    Read the OP very carefully
    Fixed it before you quoted me.

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    can I include theoreticals or only ones we've actually seen.

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    can I include theoreticals or only ones we've actually seen.
    Make list of both

    I'm curious

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    i thought grand servant's where the top even with out being grands?


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    Hmm edited op so any grand candidate is excluded


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydragon View Post
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    i thought grand servant's where the top even with out being grands?
    not automatically. No.

    grand servant containers are just vastly superior because they literally have the planet as backup. Gil mentions as much in his second fate episode.

    Gil is the strongest servant and says he'd never be considered to be summoned as one because of his personality.

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    not automatically. No.

    grand servant containers are just vastly superior because they literally have the planet as backup. Gil mentions as much in his second fate episode.

    Gil is the strongest servant and says he'd never be considered to be summoned as one because of his personality.
    o okay i see thank's for clearing that up i wasn't sure tbh.


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    Everyone under OPs rules that we know is possible:

    Saber: Rama
    Archer: Gilgamesh (Ishtar)
    Lancer: Scathach
    Rider: Quetzalcoatl
    Caster: Solomon
    Assassin: King Hassan
    Berserker: TLoD Vlad

    Excluding those which need very complicated summon processes or circumstances (aka characters FGO shoehorned in, aka this is the list of those you'd actually have a chance to summon):

    Saber: Rama
    Archer: Gilgamesh ((Heracles))
    Lancer: Karna
    Rider: Achilles/Ozymandias
    Caster: Solomon
    Assassin: Semiranis
    Berserker: Heracles


    Notes for both lists^:
    Merlin and Rhongomyniad are excluded due to obvious reasons.
    Rama is a maybe, lorewise he'd should be undoubtely Karnas and Arjunas superior but America was weird.


    Absolute list out of *everyone* including weird ones:

    Saber: Rama
    Archer: Gilgamesh
    Lancer: Goddess Rhongomyniad
    Rider: Quetzalcoatl
    Caster: Merlin
    Assassin: King Hassan
    Berserker: Enkidu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
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    Everyone under OPs rules that we know is possible:

    Saber: Rama
    Archer: Gilgamesh (Ishtar)
    Lancer: Scathach
    Rider: Quetzalcoatl
    Caster: Solomon
    Assassin: King Hassan
    Berserker: TLoD Vlad

    Excluding those which need very complicated summon processes or circumstances (aka characters FGO shoehorned in, aka this is the list of those you'd actually have a chance to summon):

    Saber: Rama
    Archer: Gilgamesh ((Heracles))
    Lancer: Karna
    Rider: Achilles/Ozymandias
    Caster: Solomon
    Assassin: Semiranis
    Berserker: Heracles


    Notes for both lists^:
    Merlin and Rhongomyniad are excluded due to obvious reasons.
    Rama is a maybe, lorewise he'd should be undoubtely Karnas and Arjunas superior but America was weird.


    Absolute list out of *everyone* including weird ones:

    Saber: Rama
    Archer: Gilgamesh
    Lancer: Goddess Rhongomyniad
    Rider: Quetzalcoatl
    Caster: Merlin
    Assassin: King Hassan
    Berserker: Enkidu
    so i get all of them but im wondering i always see Rama as the strongest saber but every time i look him up i can't find out why?

    maybe im just looking in the wrong places.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydragon View Post
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    so i get all of them but im wondering i always see Rama as the strongest saber but every time i look him up i can't find out why?

    maybe im just looking in the wrong places.
    Rama is strictly superior to Karna and Arjuna lorewise. He is Vishnu which is one of the indian three greater gods.

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    Rama is strictly superior to Karna and Arjuna lorewise. He is Vishnu which is one of the indian three greater gods.
    oh i see well that make's more sense now


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    Saber - Altera, generally considered a monster and teardrop is ridiculous. (Void Shiki perhaps but this she's very ambiguous). Artoria can be the strongest circumstantially.
    Archer - Gilgamesh (Alcides pending)
    Lancer - Enkidu (Karna debatable)
    Rider - Ozymandias, Achilles and Quetzalcoatl are all competitors. Rider in general is a very powerful class.
    Assassin - King Hassan
    Caster - Solomon. Merlin isn't a servant
    Berserker - Heracles. Cu Alter was bolstered by a grail and we haven't seen Berserker Enkidu.
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    i thought grand servant's where the top even with out being grands?
    They are. Crown servants are the highest-tier and King Hassan even without his grand saint graph is stronger than Ozy and can fight off a dozen Bel-Lahmu with minor assistance, if any at all. Its also stated he cut off Tiamat's horn.

    Solomon won his grail war with only a single one of his rings.

    None are stronger than Gil because GoB is broken but they're all going to be contenders for the strongest of their classes.
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    They are. Crown servants are the highest-tier and King Hassan even without his grand saint graph is stronger than Ozy and can fight off a dozen Bel-Lahmu with minor assistance, if any at all. Its also stated he cut off Tiamat's horn.

    Solomon won his grail war with only a single one of his rings.

    None are stronger than Gil because GoB is broken but they're all going to be contenders for the strongest of their classes.
    i thought EA was what made gil broken?


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    i thought EA was what made gil broken?
    Ea is Gil's strongest weapon but it can be dealt with.

    Gate of Babylon is what breaks the setting because it gives Gilgamesh access to any technology/material that has ever been or ever will be conceived by the human race. It's the versatility that comes with "X enemy tries to do this" only to end in " Gilgamesh pulls out X counter from GoB. This includes FTL ships, dimension refraction, immortal killers and most likely a Lord Camelot of his own.

    Because of this, he'll have something of use against nearly every scenario. Ea is just for when he needs to settle a problem with power specifically. If that won't cut it, nothing else in GoB will.

    GoB only appears less impressive because Gilgamesh is a moron who uses it wastefully.

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    Ea is Gil's strongest weapon but it can be dealt with.

    Gate of Babylon is what breaks the setting because it gives Gilgamesh access to any technology/material that has ever been or ever will be conceived by the human race. It's the versatility that comes with "X enemy tries to do this" only to end in " Gilgamesh pulls out X counter from GoB. This includes FTL ships, dimension refraction, immortal killers and most likely a Lord Camelot of his own.

    Because of this, he'll have something of use against nearly every scenario. Ea is just for when he needs to settle a problem with power specifically. If that won't cut it, nothing else in GoB will.

    GoB only appears less impressive because Gilgamesh is a moron who uses it wastefully.
    can't he use it to it's full extent though when he goes to like 100%? if you will


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    can't he use it to it's full extent though when he goes to like 100%? if you will
    Its possible he can via his future sight but like i said, gil's a moron and he goes out of his way to inhibit his own clairvoyance.

    If he's completely serious then it's possible. But if we don't see it in Strange Fake against Alcides after Gil claimed he'd go all out without Ea, then I'm losing all hope.

    Still, just look up Gil's profile and you'll see the mats suggest what makes him the strongest hero is GoB, not Ea.

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