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    Most impressive lineups of Servants

    Which is it?

    From

    Fate/Zero servants
    Fate/SN UBW servants
    Fate/Apocrypha Red servants
    Fate/Apocrypha Black servants





    一百万年白日梦冰蚕(1,000,000 Years Daydream Ice Silkworm)
    四十万年冰玉皇帝蝎子(400,000 Years Ice Jade Emperor Scorpion Hyotei)
    七十万年冰天堂雪女雪雪皇帝(700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman 'Snow Emperor' Xue Nu)

    十万年八角神秘冰厂(100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant)
    三十万年冰熊国王小白(300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai)
    十万年海美人公主李雅(100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya)
    七十万年恶魔皇帝(700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor)

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    Fate/Zero servants: Gilgamesh
    Fate/SN UBW servants: Gilgamesh again, if he does not count then Arthur/Heracles
    Fate/Apocrypha Red servants: Karna
    Fate/Apocrypha Black servants: Vlad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhaul View Post
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    Fate/Zero servants: Gilgamesh
    Fate/SN UBW servants: Gilgamesh again, if he does not count then Arthur/Heracles
    Fate/Apocrypha Red servants: Karna
    Fate/Apocrypha Black servants: Vlad
    I meant comparing the entirety of the series to each other and which comes out on top.

    Like Fate/Zero servants > Fate/SN UBW servants





    一百万年白日梦冰蚕(1,000,000 Years Daydream Ice Silkworm)
    四十万年冰玉皇帝蝎子(400,000 Years Ice Jade Emperor Scorpion Hyotei)
    七十万年冰天堂雪女雪雪皇帝(700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman 'Snow Emperor' Xue Nu)

    十万年八角神秘冰厂(100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant)
    三十万年冰熊国王小白(300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai)
    十万年海美人公主李雅(100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya)
    七十万年恶魔皇帝(700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor)

    Limit Individual, 'The strength to move unhindered throughout the world'


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    I think he means in total.

    but it's

    Strange Fake - True
    Strange Fake - Fake
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    Apocrypha Red Faction
    Stay Night
    Apocrypha Black Faction ~ Zero

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    Stay Night is actually above Zero?

    Zero had Gilgamesh, Arthur, and Iskander in it's mighty lineups





    一百万年白日梦冰蚕(1,000,000 Years Daydream Ice Silkworm)
    四十万年冰玉皇帝蝎子(400,000 Years Ice Jade Emperor Scorpion Hyotei)
    七十万年冰天堂雪女雪雪皇帝(700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman 'Snow Emperor' Xue Nu)

    十万年八角神秘冰厂(100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant)
    三十万年冰熊国王小白(300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai)
    十万年海美人公主李雅(100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya)
    七十万年恶魔皇帝(700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor)

    Limit Individual, 'The strength to move unhindered throughout the world'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rong Nianbing View Post
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    I meant comparing the entirety of the series to each other and which comes out on top.

    Like Fate/Zero servants > Fate/SN UBW servants
    Well then.

    Red Faction ~ Zero
    Stay Night
    Black Faction

    From the ones you mentioned.

    Only top tier in black faction was Vlad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rong Nianbing View Post
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    Stay Night is actually above Zero?

    Zero had Gilgamesh, Arthur, and Iskander in it's mighty lineups
    Uh.

    Stay Night also has Gil, and a more powerful Arthur but

    Cu > Diarmud
    Heracles > Lancelot
    Kojiro/F.Arm Hassan > 100 Faced Hassan
    Medea > Gilles

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    Well then.

    Red Faction ~ Zero
    Stay Night
    Black Faction

    From the ones you mentioned.

    Only top tier in black faction was Vlad.
    It's funny how the 'black' faction is the weakest

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    Uh.

    Stay Night also has Gil, and a more powerful Arthur but

    Cu > Diarmud
    Heracles > Lancelot
    Kojiro/F.Arm Hassan > 100 Faced Hassan
    Medea > Gilles
    I wouldn't consider Gil a servant in Stay Night

    he just happens to be alive with a physical body by then





    一百万年白日梦冰蚕(1,000,000 Years Daydream Ice Silkworm)
    四十万年冰玉皇帝蝎子(400,000 Years Ice Jade Emperor Scorpion Hyotei)
    七十万年冰天堂雪女雪雪皇帝(700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman 'Snow Emperor' Xue Nu)

    十万年八角神秘冰厂(100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant)
    三十万年冰熊国王小白(300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai)
    十万年海美人公主李雅(100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya)
    七十万年恶魔皇帝(700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor)

    Limit Individual, 'The strength to move unhindered throughout the world'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rong Nianbing View Post
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    It's funny how the 'black' faction is the weakest

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    I wouldn't consider Gil a servant in Stay Night

    he just happens to be alive with a physical body by then
    He's actively participating in the war even with a by proxy master.

    It counts

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    He's actively participating in the war even with a by proxy master.

    It counts
    What if we take him out of the equation?





    一百万年白日梦冰蚕(1,000,000 Years Daydream Ice Silkworm)
    四十万年冰玉皇帝蝎子(400,000 Years Ice Jade Emperor Scorpion Hyotei)
    七十万年冰天堂雪女雪雪皇帝(700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman 'Snow Emperor' Xue Nu)

    十万年八角神秘冰厂(100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant)
    三十万年冰熊国王小白(300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai)
    十万年海美人公主李雅(100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya)
    七十万年恶魔皇帝(700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor)

    Limit Individual, 'The strength to move unhindered throughout the world'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rong Nianbing View Post
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    What if we take him out of the equation?
    SF True ~ SF Fake
    Red Faction
    Zero
    FSN
    Black Faction

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    SF True ~ SF Fake
    Red Faction
    Zero
    FSN
    Black Faction
    That's what I expected.

    Strange Fake is the one with Gil and Enkidu, right?





    一百万年白日梦冰蚕(1,000,000 Years Daydream Ice Silkworm)
    四十万年冰玉皇帝蝎子(400,000 Years Ice Jade Emperor Scorpion Hyotei)
    七十万年冰天堂雪女雪雪皇帝(700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman 'Snow Emperor' Xue Nu)

    十万年八角神秘冰厂(100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant)
    三十万年冰熊国王小白(300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai)
    十万年海美人公主李雅(100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya)
    七十万年恶魔皇帝(700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor)

    Limit Individual, 'The strength to move unhindered throughout the world'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rong Nianbing View Post
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    That's what I expected.

    Strange Fake is the one with Gil and Enkidu, right?
    Strange Fakes lineup basically consists of nothing but Top Tiers.

    Gil, Enkidu, Alcides (14 different NPs, one of which can steal other NPs, every single one shown thus far is broken), One of the Four Horseman of Apocalypse who Enkidu had to flee from, NN Assassin which has all 16 different NPs of the Hassans, Hippolyta which send Alcides flying with a punch, Richard who can use Excalibur with any object he touches and has other servants as backup due to another one of his NPs, Dumas who can rewrite legends and create and combine NPs of his own which are stronger than the originals etc etc.

    It's absolutely ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
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    He's actively participating in the war even with a by proxy master.

    It counts
    In a football game you do not count the spectator running on the field a part of the line up. No matter how skilled he is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordlending View Post
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    In a football game you do not count the spectator running on the field a part of the line up. No matter how skilled he is.
    good job on making a comparison that makes no sense whatsoever in this scenario as Gil is doing everything a proper servant summoned in the war does.

    aka participating in the war.

    Does the spectator actively participate as a player and has the shot to win, adhere to the rules and is bound by them all the same?

    think not.

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    Strange Fakes lineup basically consists of nothing but Top Tiers.

    Gil, Enkidu, Alcides (14 different NPs, one of which can steal other NPs, every single one shown thus far is broken), One of the Four Horseman of Apocalypse who Enkidu had to flee from, NN Assassin which has all 16 different NPs of the Hassans, Hippolyta which send Alcides flying with a punch, Richard who can use Excalibur with any object he touches and has other servants as backup due to another one of his NPs, Dumas who can rewrite legends and create and combine NPs of his own which are stronger than the originals etc etc.

    It's absolutely ridiculous.
    Damn. So in that grand lineup, who's the strongest servant?





    一百万年白日梦冰蚕(1,000,000 Years Daydream Ice Silkworm)
    四十万年冰玉皇帝蝎子(400,000 Years Ice Jade Emperor Scorpion Hyotei)
    七十万年冰天堂雪女雪雪皇帝(700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman 'Snow Emperor' Xue Nu)

    十万年八角神秘冰厂(100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant)
    三十万年冰熊国王小白(300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai)
    十万年海美人公主李雅(100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya)
    七十万年恶魔皇帝(700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor)

    Limit Individual, 'The strength to move unhindered throughout the world'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rong Nianbing View Post
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    Damn. So in that grand lineup, who's the strongest servant?
    Gil is the 'strongest' Servant, period. It's stated as a hard undeniable fact multiple times, by the word of god, in the series and in extra material and Enkidu is said to be his equal. Alcides is stupidly strong and probably the very next best thing - he also hard counters Gil. The Horseman is Enkidus hard counter as well.

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    Gil is the 'strongest' Servant, period. It's stated as a hard undeniable fact multiple times, by the word of god, in the series and in extra material and Enkidu is said to be his equal. Alcides is stupidly strong and probably the very next best thing - he also hard counters Gil. The Horseman is Enkidus hard counter as well.
    So in a fight, would Gil or Enkidu defeat the Horseman?





    一百万年白日梦冰蚕(1,000,000 Years Daydream Ice Silkworm)
    四十万年冰玉皇帝蝎子(400,000 Years Ice Jade Emperor Scorpion Hyotei)
    七十万年冰天堂雪女雪雪皇帝(700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman 'Snow Emperor' Xue Nu)

    十万年八角神秘冰厂(100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant)
    三十万年冰熊国王小白(300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai)
    十万年海美人公主李雅(100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya)
    七十万年恶魔皇帝(700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor)

    Limit Individual, 'The strength to move unhindered throughout the world'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rong Nianbing View Post
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    So in a fight, would Gil or Enkidu defeat the Horseman?
    we'd need the specifics but the Horseman is likely to beat Enkidu as he's his antithesis. No idea how Gil would fare since we don't know enough at this point in time.

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    That's some pretty crazy hype.





    一百万年白日梦冰蚕(1,000,000 Years Daydream Ice Silkworm)
    四十万年冰玉皇帝蝎子(400,000 Years Ice Jade Emperor Scorpion Hyotei)
    七十万年冰天堂雪女雪雪皇帝(700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman 'Snow Emperor' Xue Nu)

    十万年八角神秘冰厂(100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant)
    三十万年冰熊国王小白(300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai)
    十万年海美人公主李雅(100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya)
    七十万年恶魔皇帝(700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor)

    Limit Individual, 'The strength to move unhindered throughout the world'


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