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    What's a good level of wealth inequality?

    The American people's 'ideal' wealth distribution


    Actual American wealth distribution


    What do you guys think? Is the American ideal 'too' equal or is equality always the better option? Are you worried about the actual distribution? Is it a necessary incentive?

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    I don't care what a person has achieved in their lifetime, nobody needs that much money.

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    This is beyond wrong.


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    Good amount of wealth would be enough so you don't need to work ever again and have enough to support your family and buy every essential thing your family needs + traveling expenses every year.

    And have enough in bank to buy houses for your children.

    I guess.
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    Of course they do, they pick up shit like psychology, philosophy and art, because they can't finish any decent major. They can't contribute to society in any way. Freeloaders, nothing else.
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    Grasping for air is much worse than losing half of the head.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    Ha, yeah. Steven Hawking never did anything to better humanity's place on this earth.
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    There's no such thing as free education. But even if it did exist... it would be awful.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga show´s it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Zoro>Vergo>Smoker>Sanji
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    Every CoA is hardening but not every hardening is CoA
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    I understand you want to pride yourself with my sayings in ur sig but don't overdo it, ur sig reeks shit so it doesn't stand to it.
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    Of course my sig reeks of shit when i have you in my sig.
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    It is ideal but I would rather have 1-20 earn the same, 20-40, etc so the line is a little more inclined because is not fair a scientist earns the same as someone who take care of dogs for example.

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    Those who are successful should always have more money. otherwise what's the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VICE View Post
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    Those who are successful should always have more money. otherwise what's the point?
    Yeah I agree I dont want Cuba-style distribution (Where a doctor, a top tier doctor earns shit) but looking at numbers like those reminds me of corrupted Mexico. The higher ups are not successfull, is people that got into politics and they just steal steal steal. Idk if I have said this, the ex Governor of my state used to live behind my house (literal) before he won (they had to burn a nursery and blamed the competition) so yeah he won and guess what? He created his own dam for his private ranch. A dam... A huge one, just for him and that is the smallest thing he did. Ugh it irks me so much and then I see people who studied hard without a job

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    Quote Originally Posted by VICE View Post
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    Those who are successful should always have more money. otherwise what's the point?
    Its possible to have more money than someone without having literally 100000x what they have

    I understand multi millionaires, even 9 digits of money i understand, it's pointless but hey, big companies

    But billionaires?

    If 10 of the richest Americans gave up all of their wealth but 1 billion (which is still a ridiculous amount), there'd be approximately 500 billion dollars floating around. Enough for 45 million Americans to receive $11000 USD per person.

    And there are 45 million Americans living below the poverty line which means that they cannot afford basic necessities, forget disposable income.

    $11000. That's the average healthcare covered, rent paid off, maybe a little money left over to buy the third square meal of the day.

    If 100 of the richest Americans gave up all of their wealth but 1 billion, there'd be approximately 1400 billion dollars all pooled up.

    The average GDP per capita in Sudan is 2078 USD.
    Divide that up by the entire 40 million strong population of the country, and that's $35000 USD per person.

    That's the income of the Sudanese covered for the next 17 years.

    Thats the 100 richest.

    Wealth inequality is a fine thing, to a point. Then it starts getting a little bit absurd. And personally, I believe its gotta stop somewhere.
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    Its possible to have more money than someone without having literally 100000x what they have

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    Everyone will have different ideas on how much more money a successful person should have compared to the average person. However we should all agree to a limit on how much someone needs and take into consideration whether they have a family or not.

    First however we should calculate how much the poorest in society need for their basic comforts.

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    fuck the poor.....

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    fuck the poor.....
    That's not funny, not even as a joke.

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    That's not funny, not even as a joke.
    I laughed.

    Also as someone that grew up not far off being poor, having pulled myself up by my bootstraps I know it's possible to elevate yourself.

    It's hard but it's doable which is why anyone that acts like being poor is the sole reason for them not achieving anything I have no respect for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Wick View Post
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    I laughed.

    Also as someone that grew up not far off being poor, having pulled myself up by my bootstraps I know it's possible to elevate yourself.

    It's hard but it's doable which is why anyone that acts like being poor is the sole reason for them not achieving anything I have no respect for.
    But you can't deny that poverty plays a huge role in how you turn out

    Poverty isn't just a money issue, its a culture of drugs and every issue middle class people face exemplified

    I know you're of an asian ethnicity and managed to come to success (and yes, being in an asian culture makes success more probable due to the work ethics ingrained in us ) but it doesn't change the fact that the statistics show a very, VERY defined correspondence between rags and more rags in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sunset View Post
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    But you can't deny that poverty plays a huge role in how you turn out

    Poverty isn't just a money issue, its a culture of drugs and every issue middle class people face exemplified

    I know you're of an asian ethnicity and managed to come to success (and yes, being in an asian culture makes success more probable due to the work ethics ingrained in us ) but it doesn't change the fact that the statistics show a very, VERY defined correspondence between rags and more rags in the future.
    I'm not denying that it doesn't play a part but if you're determined then you can overcome it. A lot of it is to do with culture as you pointed out since my parents drove me to be the best so that I could overcome the disadvantage of being brown

    if you come from a background where you're taught that the system is against you and that you'll never succeed unless you're lucky you're setting yourself up for failure.

    what makes me laugh here in the UK there's a Black lives matter movement yet twice as many asians died follwoing contact with police than black people.

    they also ignore the prejuidice that asians have experienced following 9/11 and various other terror related incidents, which gave rise to discrimination.

    yet despite all of that Indians specifically have grown to be the second most financially successful minority after the jewish community, not because they're better or superior but because of the mindset of hardwork that they have, yes some were lucky coming to the UK being educated professionals but there were many that came as unskilled workers, and some like my mums family that came with nothing but the clothes on their back.

    you mentioned statistics, but here in the UK In my opinion It's different, most schools are good in the snese that providing you put in the work and pay attention you can attain good grades it's not like america where if you're poor the schools are shit.

    also progressing to further education unlike america where if you're poor you can't afford a decent higher education here in the UK the government finances it in the form of loans (used to be grants but thanks to the financial crisis that was cut)

    so what excuse is there for you being poor if here in the UK you have the tools to become succesful, I didn't go to a private school yet I got better grades that kids that went to eton and harrow, numerous people from my class graduated above those from wealthier backgrounds.

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    Gad?

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    Gad?
    IDK what that means.

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    IDK what that means.
    I am asking sunset if he is Gad but is more likely not. I need to think of a asian cultured person that is not active and the only ones on my mind are Gad and Z.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cake View Post
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    I am asking sunset if he is Gad but is more likely not. I need to think of a asian cultured person that is not active and the only ones on my mind are Gad and Z.
    oh, Also why do you have to think of an asian cultured person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Wick View Post
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    oh, Also why do you have to think of an asian cultured person?
    He said "us" just check his post where there is a brofist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cake View Post
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    He said "us" just check his post where there is a brofist.
    I skimmed his post tbf

    I'm hungover and running on autopilot.

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