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    Quote Originally Posted by Zentos View Post
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    And who, exactly, is supposed to be ahead of him? He's been tasked with every important task and when sent in early had remarks like "why is Zenou already out?". He's Kanki's go-to when shit hits the fan.
    for example raido, kokuou, maron. Eventually the jester horseman captain too, since kanki kept him close for the entire kokuyou campaign. Zenou and his tribe are the hammer of the kanki army, but aside of the offensive impact there's not much more to them.

    Apart from his strength which I'd give a 94 easily, he's displayed eye for strategy, like when he and Raido bounced back and burnt the hill.
    lol


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    Your ability to underplay a character because you don't find them pretty is absolutely amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zentos View Post
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    Your ability to underplay a character because you don't find them pretty is absolutely amazing.
    is there anyone who thinks zenou is pretty?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    is there anyone who thinks zenou is pretty?


    I'm referring to the fact that I'm fairly certain that you're downplaying Zenou just because you find him ugly. I mean, Raido has 90 str and he's just not on Zenou's level.

  5. #25
    - Mouten/Ousen scene was great.
    - Banaji is pretty big, huh?
    - I like Gakuei's asshole talk
    - Ousen/Ouhon dynamic....i wanna see more
    - "Redo it now"
    - I like Akou and Makou a lot.

    Good chap.

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    I am going to have trouble remembering all these new names.
    Anyhow lol at that Zhao douchebag who doesn't bother to know all the facts of the war he is fighting. Any General worth his salt should know every major name in battlefield least his own .
    This dude deserve to be beaten shit out of him by Akou.
    Akou seems like a reasonable person. There is one thing to question your Supreme Commanders orders(like Shin) and completely another to order them to change battle plan to suit his need. Ouhon was such a brat in this chapter. Ousen had kept HSU hidden too for some reason. For someone as strategically talented as Ouhon , it should be obvious that Ousen plans to use both independent units in some creative ways . He really allows his Daddy complex affect his reasoning.
    And I actually think Mouten would benefit more from Ousen's tutelage than Ouhon would. Mouten is most strategically inclined out of all 3 of them and there is just too much of bad blood between Ousen and Ouhon for them to work properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zentos View Post
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    I'm referring to the fact that I'm fairly certain that you're downplaying Zenou just because you find him ugly. I mean, Raido has 90 str and he's just not on Zenou's level.
    raido is not better than zenou design wise, and he's mediocre himself. But compared to zenou, he's like the chief strategist. He might not be the brightest man of the world, but hell, zenou can barely speak


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    Gakuei didn't even know the Legends of his own state's men. Can we expect a Tou of Zhao?

    Gakuei hypetool for Akou

    Contrary to Kanjou's comment, Akou seems to believe in the strength of Gyoku Hou and think they will be needed in an important clash?
    Honestly confused with Kanjou's remark of not having any expectation
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    So much hype in this chapter.Can't wait to see Akou and one of vassals from previous GH general in action against each other.Gakuei is such an idiot for not knowing about top boys from his own country

    I wonder who will be the most successful of the top 3 Qin young guns in this war?
    To be fair, it wasn't that he didn't know that the guy in front of him was that person. Gakuei wasn't stupid, he was arrogant.

    Well I guess the arrogance of not bothering to find out who's on his side is stupidity in itself...

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    he's what

    he's the strongest musclehead in his army, that's all. He's not a general and much less the number one of his retinues.
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    And who, exactly, is supposed to be ahead of him? He's been tasked with every important task and when sent in early had remarks like "why is Zenou already out?". He's Kanki's go-to when shit hits the fan.

    Apart from his strength which I'd give a 94 easily, he's displayed eye for strategy, like when he and Raido bounced back and burnt the hill.
    Zenou is the strongest fighter and arguable trump card, but I wouldn't say he's definitely Kanki's best vassal overall. If anything it seems to be Raido.

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    Zenou is the strongest fighter and arguable trump card, but I wouldn't say he's definitely Kanki's best vassal overall. If anything it seems to be Raido.
    embarrassingly enough, it seems to be raido. He's the one Kanki delegates to when he's not around.

    which is pretty weird, since both kokuou and maron are several steps ahead when it comes to anything that isn't waving a stick around.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    raido is not better than zenou design wise, and he's mediocre himself. But compared to zenou, he's like the chief strategist. He might not be the brightest man of the world, but hell, zenou can barely speak
    The man doesn't run his mouth unless necessary, how is that bad?

  11. #31
    The question on Kanki's best/most trusted general is a bit hard to decide imo. Recent chapter suggest that it should be Raido and Maron. Maron in strategical department while Raido in field to be exact

    Zenou is definitely Kanki's strongest fighter and trump card to reverse the situation quickly or make a decisive win. But Zenou isn't exactly the type that you want to send in open engagement like Akou though..

  12. #32
    I feel like Gakuei is just looking for an opportunity to go out in a blaze of glory ever since Keisha died.

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    Zenou is the strongest fighter and arguable trump card, but I wouldn't say he's definitely Kanki's best vassal overall. If anything it seems to be Raido.
    I think of Zenou as a poor man's HouKen.

    Wouldn't be surprised if his STR is around 95-97.

    I think we can safely assume he's going to die this arc, so I've been wondering who the heck in Zhao is even capable of killing him besides HouKen.

  14. #34
    Lmao, Gakuei's arrogant as always towards people he knows nothing of only to be awaken to a harsh reality of the rankings.

    Akou and Makou are delivering for now hope to see more from them. Also cannot wait to see Bananji in action and the two ex-GH vassals who he hyped to be equal to Kaishibou and Rinko as far as their abilities are concerned.

  15. #35
    I wouldn't put him in the mid-high 90's. He's huge + destructive, sure, but that doesn't mean everything when you consider Kaishibou is 90, Batei is 90, Rokuomi is 91. Even Rinbukun who had spent years battling his way to becoming a powerful + respected general of Chu was only a 93. SHK a 91 etc. Those guys all have great martial hype.

    Anyone who is in the 90's can be considered a monster in the eyes of fodder. I'd cap him at anywhere from 91-94.

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    Also cannot wait to see Bananji in action.
    Banaji looks pretty beastly IMO.

  16. #36
    This chapter just enforced what i have always thought... of all the new gen commanders Mouten is the most complete, he views the entire battle field, doesn't mind the support role in order to get things done.... shin cares too much about getting a generals head and he has his flaws, but he has so many talented vassals that well covers those flaws, and the fact that he leads all these people makes him formidable..... i think Ouhon lacks the most, while it is easy to wank over his achievement in the FD war, that plan was unnecessarily risky and illogical, the only reason Tou accepted that is because Tou is more focused on developing the younger gen than his own achievement imo... if i had to choose one of them to fight under me as a general it would be Mouten>shin>Ouhon.... In Ouhon defense he only exhibits these behaviors when Ousen is involved...

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    This chapter just enforced what i have always thought... of all the new gen commanders Mouten is the most complete, he views the entire battle field, doesn't mind the support role in order to get things done.... shin cares too much about getting a generals head and he has his flaws, but he has so many talented vassals that well covers those flaws, and the fact that he leads all these people makes him formidable..... i think Ouhon lacks the most, while it is easy to wank over his achievement in the FD war, that plan was unnecessarily risky and illogical, the only reason Tou accepted that is because Tou is more focused on developing the younger gen than his own achievement imo... if i had to choose one of them to fight under me as a general it would be Mouten>shin>Ouhon.... In Ouhon defense he only exhibits these behaviors when Ousen is involved...
    Did you just dismiss entirely how many times Mouten nearly died on the coalition war arc? he's good on the grand planning strategy but he sucked badly at carrying out tactically.


    1. He employed the same tactic to help Tou's flank as Ouhon but he nearly killed by Chu's army and saved by Tou.
    2. Sandwiches by Chu's duo and luckily Ouhon was there to help him
    3. Unable to came up what to do next and need to know Ouhon position before he decided to follow Ouhon decision on Karin pursuit.
    4. Lack of martial skill to engage against the top fighters like Kaen and Batei and nearly died against Kanmei's sword.


    Gyoku Hou>Gakuka>HSU

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    Poor Ousen will lose both his right hand and left hand and then he will have to rely on Ousen, Mouten and Shin

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    Did you just dismiss entirely how many times Mouten nearly died on the coalition war arc? he's good on the grand planning strategy but he sucked badly at carrying out tactically.


    1. He employed the same tactic to help Tou's flank as Ouhon but he nearly killed by Chu's army and saved by Tou.
    2. Sandwiches by Chu's duo and luckily Ouhon was there to help him
    3. Unable to came up what to do next and need to know Ouhon position before he decided to follow Ouhon decision on Karin pursuit.
    4. Lack of martial skill to engage against the top fighters like Kaen and Batei and nearly died against Kanmei's sword.


    Gyoku Hou>Gakuka>HSU
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    Of course they do, they pick up shit like psychology, philosophy and art, because they can't finish any decent major. They can't contribute to society in any way. Freeloaders, nothing else.
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    Grasping for air is much worse than losing half of the head.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga show´s it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Zoro>Vergo>Smoker>Sanji
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    Also we know that BM already defeated Kaido at least once or even twice.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    @Kanki; no doubt about that and he had a glaive so its given that heads and bodies will go flying once he enters the battlefield.

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    Akou's horse looks so fucking cool


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