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    it's needed.

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    everyone has the right to live obviously, but if giving that right consequent roping other people's very same right ( to live ); it's better of roped. .__.

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    over than killing, death penalty isn't relevant imo

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    Yeah sure, why not.
    Provided - the victim(s) makes the choice (if still alive) and is not unnecessarily painful. No torture, just lethal injection, gunshot to temple or something.

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    What if he killed a lot of people? I don't think that letting him die would be a right choice. That's really ''soft'' punishment for what he did.
    You can't count how many lives a bad guy has taken off, as you cannot kill the murderer twice. Death is the worst punishment to all living creatures, which means killing one person or ten doesn't necessarily make any difference to them. I do agree with that some people deserve horrible punishment tho.

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    The death penalty is not needed in the modern society in my opinion, since killing a bad guy doesn't make the society more civilized but losing more potential benefits. There are many other ways to make them pay, such as labour forces.

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    Lol @ people saying criminals should be tortured.

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    The death penalty is a huge waste of money (tax payer money) and resources so I don't support it. It also runs the risk of killing innocent people, which is never okay.

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    The death penalty is a huge waste of money (tax payer money) and resources so I don't support it. It also runs the risk of killing innocent people, which is never okay.
    death penalty is wrong under several points of view, but sure you can't say it's a waste of money compared to life detention.

    also welcome back, bolid

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    death penalty is wrong under several points of view, but sure you can't say it's a waste of money compared to life detention.

    also welcome back, bolid
    Of course I can. I can't speak on behalf of other countries, but here in the United States, it costs more to kill someone than to lock them up for life. Even more specifically, here in my home state of Florida, it costs $1,468,275 ($19,577/year) to imprison someone for 75 years. I think it's a fair assertion to say that not many people are going to survive that long in prison conditions even if they commit a heinous crime in their early 20's, but I'm high-balling it for you just for arguments sake.

    Sounds like a lot of money, right?? Well here in Florida it costs us 24 million per execution. We'd actually save 51 million per year if we commuted everyone sentenced to capital punishment to life imprisonment.

    And thank you.
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    Of course I can. I can't speak on behalf of other countries, but here in the United States, it costs more to kill someone than to lock them up for life. Even more specifically, here in my home state of Florida, it costs $1,468,275 ($19,577/year) to imprison someone for 75 years. I think it's a fair assertion to say that not many people are going to survive that long in prison conditions even if they commit a heinous crime in their early 20's, but I'm high-balling it for you just for arguments sake.
    seems fair, all included.

    Sounds like a lot of money, right?? Well here in Florida it costs us 24 million per execution. We actually save 51 million per year, if we commuted everyone sentenced to capital punishment to life imprisonment.
    what the hell??

    jesus christ, why?

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    seems fair, all included.



    what the hell??

    jesus christ, why?
    Because cases where capital punishment is on the table are more complicated than non-capital cases. A life is at stake so the justice system owes it to the defendants to be as thorough, and fair as possible. And then of course even if you convict the defendant and sentence him to death, he has the right to several appeals.
    http://tcadp.org/wp-content/uploads/...sive-print.pdf

    This is the cost of a trial in texas. Detah sentence vs life in prison.
    The average cost of a Texas death penalty case is $2.3 million vs. $750,000 for life in prison

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    The death penalty is a huge waste of money (tax payer money) and resources so I don't support it. It also runs the risk of killing innocent people, which is never okay.
    Seriously?

    Wat?

    Just get him out and chop off his head ffs..
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    Of course they do, they pick up shit like psychology, philosophy and art, because they can't finish any decent major. They can't contribute to society in any way. Freeloaders, nothing else.
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    Grasping for air is much worse than losing half of the head.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga show´s it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Zoro>Vergo>Smoker>Sanji
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    Every CoA is hardening but not every hardening is CoA
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    Seriously? You think death penalty is bigger waste of money than life sentence?
    Have you actually looked into it? Doesn't sound like you have.

    It's not as simple as taking a guy out back behind the courthouse after he's convicted and then putting a bullet between his eyes. It's very time consuming and expensive to kill people "humanely".

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    Have you actually looked into it?
    I didn't.. HOw much can it cost to chop off someones head..

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    I just saw. Oh ffs 2.3$ for death penalty. Please... Fucking retard country.

    You can pay some Muslim 100$ for that shit. He would probably do it for free. But you idiots need to overpay every single shit.
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    Of course they do, they pick up shit like psychology, philosophy and art, because they can't finish any decent major. They can't contribute to society in any way. Freeloaders, nothing else.
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    Grasping for air is much worse than losing half of the head.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga show´s it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Zoro>Vergo>Smoker>Sanji
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    Also we know that BM already defeated Kaido at least once or even twice.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    Every CoA is hardening but not every hardening is CoA
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    I didn't.. HOw much can it cost to chop off someones head..
    Ask ISIS or Saudi Arabia.

    I'm telling you how it works here in America.

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    Ask ISIS or Saudi Arabia.

    I'm telling you how it works here in America.
    Ask PoPs..

    I edited my previous post.

    Make a chair, put him on chair, let electricity = 200$

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    The price of plywood and four nine-inch nails comes to $43.28, making this the cheapest form of execution. Where It's an Option: Sudan and Saudi Arabia.
    Guillotine.
    Cost: Building a guillotine costs around $1,200, lumber and hardware tools included.
    There you go. I just saved your retard country 2.3 million dollars per execution.

    Fucking autistic retard country. Damn i actually got triggered just because once again I got reminded how retarded Muricans are..
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    China is evangelizing on a scale this world has never seen!

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    Atheists don't even breed!

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    Of course they do, they pick up shit like psychology, philosophy and art, because they can't finish any decent major. They can't contribute to society in any way. Freeloaders, nothing else.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga show´s it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Zoro>Vergo>Smoker>Sanji
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    Also we know that BM already defeated Kaido at least once or even twice.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    Because cases where capital punishment is on the table are more complicated than non-capital cases. A life is at stake so the justice system owes it to the defendants to be as thorough, and fair as possible. And then of course even if you convict the defendant and sentence him to death, he has the right to several appeals.
    http://tcadp.org/wp-content/uploads/...sive-print.pdf

    This is the cost of a trial in texas. Detah sentence vs life in prison.
    yeah i looked up a bit, it seems none is below 1 million for some reason

    god knows why they're still keeping death penalty if even the only historically practical reason for it isn't even valid anymore

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    yeah i looked up a bit, it seems none is below 1 million for some reason

    god knows why they're still keeping death penalty if even the only historically practical reason for it isn't even valid anymore
    Yeah, that's the main reason why it's a silly thing to support in this day and age. And the murderer gets to die painlessly and humanely through lethal injection, which in most cases is not how their victim went out. So really what justice are you exacting with the death penalty? A life sentence without possibility for paraole spent in mostly solitary confinement is a far less costly and still far worse punishment than the modern day death sentence.

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    So some of you guys have an issue with not killing people 'humanely' but are okay with putting people in solitary confinement for the majority of a life sentence?

    Hoe does it make sense to worry about being humane when killing someone for a crime, but also be willing to torture that person for years on end as a punishment for that same crime?

    It the matter comes to execution, shoot the guy in the head or cut his neck. Easy and cheap.
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