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    UBD General Topic Thread

    So as to avoid threads being further derailed over confusion or disagreements regarding feats and/or the stats of certain characters

    This is a thread where you can direct your general questions and find answers concerning the validity or application of certain feats and overall stat-line of series' in the UBD (e.g. Eileen's meteor speed, Rayleigh intercepting Kizaru implications, etc.)

    If you're not sure of something or have any questions regarding standards or practices we may have here, you can bring it up in this thread

    May also use this thread to provide any suggestions or ideas you feel may improve the battledome or voice any concerns/problems you may have with the section or things that go on in it
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    Notice how the dude first put Eileen's meteor speed, Rax? That is what's more important

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    Because it was discussed today



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    with all the disputes, confusion, and whatnot over character standings here figured i'd try to update and revive the ubd profiles a bit

    if there's any you feel need to be updated or created lmk. or feel free to make your own
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    Energy of a collapsing star?


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    Giga fall's blast wave and Fuji's meteors..

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    Chinjao's calc
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    Monspiet's Purgatory flamebird,Luffy's KKG,Aokiji freezing the Ocean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krash View Post
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    Giga fall's blast wave and Fuji's meteors..
    giga fall - 23.56 gigatons

    fuji meteors - mach 1,940 (?)

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    Chinjao's calc
    84.66 gigatons

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    Monspiet's Purgatory flamebird,Luffy's KKG,Aokiji freezing the Ocean
    monspiet - 1.79 gigatons

    kkg - 1.594 gigatons

    aokiji - 1.9 gigatons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teo View Post
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    giga fall - 23.56 gigatons

    fuji meteors - mach 1,940 (?)



    84.66 gigatons



    monspiet - 1.79 gigatons

    kkg - 1.594 gigatons

    aokiji - 1.9 gigatons
    Giga fall-
    The Seismic movement is 23 gigatons.I wanted to discussed the Blastwave which would yield teratons.

    Purgatory flamebird-the 1.79 gigatons is the radiated energy.That 1.79gt value was merely from the side effects of the flamebird.If the flamebird had exploded, then it would be hundreds of times more potent than 1.79gt.But Mama Hawk prevented that
    So I was thinking that we do something similar to what Rax did with Etherion and get an upgrade..

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    Present your case for why we should accept the Fujitora country level meteor calc and the Aokiji country level calc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krash View Post
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    Giga fall-
    The Seismic movement is 23 gigatons.I wanted to discussed the Blastwave which would yield teratons.
    oh. that method wouldn't really apply to what dolor did. not really an airblast.
    was discussed here

    So I was thinking that we do something similar to what Rax did with Etherion and get an upgrade..
    they're completely different cases
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teo View Post
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    oh. that method wouldn't really apply to what dolor did. not really an airblast.
    was discussed here



    they're completely different cases
    I understand that the airblast value is not accepted because there's not enough visuals.But there's a few things that point in that direction.

    The Purgatory flamebird case isn't completely different from the Etherion case, but they're also not completely the same.

    We already have a rough estimate of what it would yield if it exploded.So I believe it should be pushed and accepted..

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    I understand that the airblast value is not accepted because there's not enough visuals.But there's a few things that point in that direction.

    The Purgatory flamebird case isn't completely different from the Etherion case, but they're also not completely the same.

    We already have a rough estimate of what it would yield if it exploded.So I believe it should be pushed and accepted..
    There's no evidence whatsoever of an airblast even remotely reaching that far, the visuals don't depict anything aside from tremors and the dialogue on CR notes that it's aftershocks they're feeling.

    The flamebird is completely different. There's nothing to support it being hundreds of times stronger if it would detonate.
    Etherion has a statement, made by the people who fired it and have seen it work. To believe they're all lying to each other about it requires some severe cognitive dissonance.

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    No one has ever disputed the Rayleigh stuff.

    It's dumb to argue agaisnt Aokiji's ice age going below 20 meters.Ice can't sustain itself for a week if it only freezes the water's surface.

    Fujitora's meteor's are self explanatory.


    Those are things I want maggots like Rax and some others to keep in mind when they bring up the Chinjao calc or speed arguments.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellinger View Post
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    No one has ever disputed the Rayleigh stuff.

    It's dumb to argue agaisnt Aokiji's ice age going below 20 meters.Ice can't sustain itself for a week if it only freezes the water's surface.

    Fujitora's meteor's are self explanatory.


    Those are things I want maggots like Rax and some others to keep in mind when they bring up the Chinjao calc or speed arguments.

    It can lol a 20 metre thick ice sheet could last for months
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    And the Chinjao calc thing why would we keep those in mind when we're disproving it

    Thats like pretending the Empire State Building is still the tallest building in the world by referencing NYC's GDP lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ticking Sound View Post
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    It can lol a metre thick ice sheet could last for days

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    And the Chinjao calc thing why would we keep those in mind when we're disproving it

    Thats like pretending the Empire State Building is still the tallest building in the world by referencing NYC's GDP lmao

    You aren't disproving a thing though.The Chinjao calc,even as it is currently,is a severe lowball.

    A thin ice lasting for days ? What ?

    Also why the fuck are you always referencing irrelevant things ? Not to mention your weird obsession with me.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellinger View Post
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    You aren't disproving a thing though.The Chinjao calc,even as it is currently,is a severe lowball.

    A thin ice lasting for days ? What ?

    Also why the fuck are you always referencing irrelevant things ? Not to mention your weird obsession with me.

    Because u said keep in mind Chinjao calc is legit because Fujitora has meteors and stuff
    My example is essentially saying ur not proving anything

    Ya 'thin' ice (20 metres isn't thin, neither is 1 metre) lasts for a long time you just have a very weird perspective on how things work. It's almost like your baseless assumptions are, I don't know, baseless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numinous One View Post
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    There's no evidence whatsoever of an airblast even remotely reaching that far, the visuals don't depict anything aside from tremors and the dialogue on CR notes that it's aftershocks they're feeling.

    The flamebird is completely different. There's nothing to support it being hundreds of times stronger if it would detonate.
    Etherion has a statement, made by the people who fired it and have seen it work. To believe they're all lying to each other about it requires some severe cognitive dissonance.
    I understand that the Blastwave isn't accepted due to the lack of visuals.

    The 1.79gt value is a secondary by-product of the attack.The flamebird is a projectile and is meant to do something, i.e detonate on contact (explode).
    The yields would be leaps and bounds above 1.79gt if had done what it was intended to do..

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    I've always wondered why White Beard's small continental quakes isn't considered environmental destruction.

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