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    killing Ordo the next time they meet?

    But that implies he'll have earned the title if/when he does that. He doesn't need to because he's already been offered it

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    But that implies he'll have earned the title if/when he does that. He doesn't need to because he's already been offered it
    oh right... for some reason this hikikomori managed to get the title without achievement

    I forget Zhao's title is really that cheap

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    oh right... for some reason this hikikomori managed to get the title without achievement

    I forget Zhao's title is really that cheap
    well....riboku said he only did it to 'tempt' SBS out of his City. That's what makes me think SBS may never get the rank.

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    well....riboku said he only did it to 'tempt' SBS out of his City. That's what makes me think SBS may never get the rank.
    oh was it?

    no wonder SBS hate central Zhao that much.... even Riboku himself is only doing suspicious things

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    this, guy won't join unless his city's threatened by Zhao's imminent destruction
    Which is why Riboku will have to grovel to him.

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    Doesn't matter how he lost, he did. Kanki exploited a weakness just like he did to Keisha. As fate would have it, Keisha's mistake cost him his life and so couldn't learn from the experience to become stronger. Kisui will have learned from the battle though, so with the experience gained may (probably will) prove to become stronger than Keisha, but at the time the two were fairly even.
    No Kisui didn't. Since you insist on being retard, than Keisha was the one who lost the war. Kisui was not commander in chief. So he could not be blamed for lost war. It was Keisha who lost the war because he is trash.

    No they were not even at all. Keisha did nothing remarkable in war. Kisui on the other hand at very start successfully managed to trick Kanki army and take more ground. Then he managed to save Keisha successfully. He managed to push Kokuou and take even more ground on hill.

    What did Keisha do? Fail attack on the right flank(which was available thanks to Kisui), fail attack on the left flank, die.
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    Of course they do, they pick up shit like psychology, philosophy and art, because they can't finish any decent major. They can't contribute to society in any way. Freeloaders, nothing else.
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    Grasping for air is much worse than losing half of the head.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    Ha, yeah. Steven Hawking never did anything to better humanity's place on this earth.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga show´s it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Zoro>Vergo>Smoker>Sanji
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    Every CoA is hardening but not every hardening is CoA
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    Kisui (Batei and Ryuutou)'s success should be attributed to HSU's idiocy, the same way Keisha's "failure" should be attributed to Raido and Zenou's competency. Had the two are switched, Ryuutou and Batei would look like clowns while Keisha and his elites would have wiped HSU

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    Kisui (Batei and Ryuutou)'s success should be attributed to HSU's idiocy, the same way Keisha's "failure" should be attributed to Raido and Zenou's competency. Had the two are switched, Ryuutou and Batei would look like clowns while Keisha and his elites would have wiped HSU
    So no accomplishment should ever be attributed to generals. But always enemies should be blamed for idiocy.

    So basically Kanki's success should be attributed to Keisha idiocy. Is this how retard logic works? I got it.



    So we finally agree that biggest idiot is Keisha, guy who is only one to be blamed for everything.
    Good that's settled.
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    Of course they do, they pick up shit like psychology, philosophy and art, because they can't finish any decent major. They can't contribute to society in any way. Freeloaders, nothing else.
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    Grasping for air is much worse than losing half of the head.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga show´s it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    Every CoA is hardening but not every hardening is CoA
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    No Kisui didn't. Since you insist on being retard, than Keisha was the one who lost the war. Kisui was not commander in chief. So he could not be blamed for lost war. It was Keisha who lost the war because he is trash.
    Both Keisha and Kisui lost to Kanki. Kisui became the CiC once Keisha died and also lost. Kanki used the saki clan to find Kisui's weakness and exploited it.

    No they were not even at all. Keisha did nothing remarkable in war. Kisui on the other hand at very start successfully managed to trick Kanki army and take more ground. Then he managed to save Keisha successfully. He managed to push Kokuou and take even more ground on hill.
    Kisui never tricked Kanki at all. The latter didn't even know of former's presence until the last day or so. Pushing Kokuou isn't anything to write home about. Keisha did manage to damage Kanki's own strategy at the start.

    What did Keisha do? Fail attack on the right flank(which was available thanks to Kisui), fail attack on the left flank, die.
    Neither man did that much damage to Kanki. The losses were minimal. Once Kanki realised both their styles, he swiftly dealt with both.

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    Both Keisha and Kisui lost to Kanki. Kisui became the CiC once Keisha died and also lost. Kanki used the saki clan to find Kisui's weakness and exploited it.

    Kisui never tricked Kanki at all. The latter didn't even know of former's presence until the last day or so. Pushing Kokuou isn't anything to write home about. Keisha did manage to damage Kanki's own strategy at the start.

    Neither man did that much damage to Kanki. The losses were minimal. Once Kanki realised both their styles, he swiftly dealt with both.
    So your autistic logic is. After Keisha died, Kisui became the Commander in Chief and then he is to blame for loss.
    So when Kisui pulled back his Rigan army and left Kinmou alone there. Doesn't that mean Kinmou became Commander in Chief. And then since it was Kinmou who ordered pulling of Zhao army, shouldn't Kinmou be blamed. isn't that your retard logic.

    I just can't comprehend how do you blame Kisui who is in middle? It was Kinmou who commanded Zhao army and it was Kinmou who was last left at that hill.

    So Kisui lost to Kanki even tho they did not do battle. So Kisui not wanting Saki clan to torture women and children of his hometown is his strategical weakness. Ok

    Keisha doing nothing and dying sure is something to write home about.
    Keisha: I failed at everything, celebrate me autists.

    Keisha did not manage to damage Kanki's own strategy at the start, that was Kisui. The hell are you talking about.

    Both their styles? What is this shit you are spouting now? What is that Kisuis "style" that you talk about?
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    Of course they do, they pick up shit like psychology, philosophy and art, because they can't finish any decent major. They can't contribute to society in any way. Freeloaders, nothing else.
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    Uhm, yes?
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    Big Mom's probably weaker than all the admirals, Marco and King as well.
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    True. Mihawk is stronger than both Shanks and Akainu. He can win against this version of Whitebeard with high or extreme difficulty.
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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Akainu is stronger than Shanks though
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    What do you mean do I think Vergo could beat Sanji, it already happened in the manga.

    Zoro is stronger than Vergo, was the same seat level as Pica and Zoro effortlessly put him down.

    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy. The guy can stitch his internal organs after taking a Counter Shock hit, sword wounds are a piece of cake for him. Vista's Mihawk level Haki and base stats would probably push Doffy to high-difficulty though.
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    No swordsmen can beat Doffy with a sword. Plain and simple. It's same like beating Buggy with a sword or Jozu with a sword. It's impossible, use your brain.
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    Evidence is the anime filler and common sense.
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    Doffy>Jozu>Cracker.The Manga show´s it pretty clear
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    the last battle of MF Whitebeard where he KO'ed Akainu.
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    Doffy cannot fight Mihawk for even 5 minutes.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    DreX the "Intelligent" earned a special spot for all his remarkable claims

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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    So your autistic logic is. After Keisha died, Kisui became the Commander in Chief and then he is to blame for loss.
    That isn't what I said, at all. Kanki defeated 70k soldiers when Keisha was CiC, and he also defeated Zhao with similar numerical difference when Kisui was CiC.
    So when Kisui pulled back his Rigan army and left Kinmou alone there. Doesn't that mean Kinmou became Commander in Chief. And then since it was Kinmou who ordered pulling of Zhao army, shouldn't Kinmou be blamed. isn't that your retard logic.
    Nope, it isn't. Kisui took almost half his army to defeat a threat that didn't even exist and left Kinmou vulnerable to Zenou, Raido, HSU etc. It was Kisui's choice to do that, and Kanki knew he would. It was a decision which Kisui made and it cost Zhao the war.

    I just can't comprehend how do you blame Kisui who is in middle? It was Kinmou who commanded Zhao army and it was Kinmou who was last left at that hill.
    I am not 'blaming' anybody. Kanki outplayed both Keisha and Kisui at different times.

    So Kisui lost to Kanki even tho they did not do battle. So Kisui not wanting Saki clan to torture women and children of his hometown is his strategical weakness. Ok
    Didn't you read the manga? Kanki wasn't going to harm Rigen. He wanted to make Kisui believe he was and he succeeded. You don't need to cross swords to defeat someone. Kanki forced Kisui into abandoning the hill with his mind games. He defeated Kisui just like he defeated Keisha, in two totally different ways.

    Keisha doing nothing and dying sure is something to write home about.
    Keisha: I failed at everything, celebrate me autists.

    Keisha did not manage to damage Kanki's own strategy at the start, that was Kisui. The hell are you talking about.
    Go and re-read. Keisha set a trap to take out Kanki's enforced left hand side with Zenou and Raido. Even Raido claimed that Kanki had fallen for Keisha's trap. Fortunately for Kanki, Raido + Zenou were able to escape and make a little counter attack. But overall it was still an exchange which Keisha 'won', albeit there was no critical damage.
    Both their styles? What is this shit you are spouting now? What is that Kisuis "style" that you talk about?
    Styles as in Kisui being 100% focused on the civilians of Rigan. Perhaps 'weakness' would be a better phrase. Keisha's style + own weakness was obvious with the web stuff which Riboku and Kinmou talked about.

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    That isn't what I said, at all. Kanki defeated 70k soldiers when Keisha was CiC, and he also defeated Zhao with similar numerical difference when Kisui was CiC.

    Nope, it isn't. Kisui took almost half his army to defeat a threat that didn't even exist and left Kinmou vulnerable to Zenou, Raido, HSU etc. It was Kisui's choice to do that, and Kanki knew he would. It was a decision which Kisui made and it cost Zhao the war.


    I am not 'blaming' anybody. Kanki outplayed both Keisha and Kisui at different times.


    Didn't you read the manga? Kanki wasn't going to harm Rigen. He wanted to make Kisui believe he was and he succeeded. You don't need to cross swords to defeat someone. Kanki forced Kisui into abandoning the hill with his mind games. He defeated Kisui just like he defeated Keisha, in two totally different ways.


    Go and re-read. Keisha set a trap to take out Kanki's enforced left hand side with Zenou and Raido. Even Raido claimed that Kanki had fallen for Keisha's trap. Fortunately for Kanki, Raido + Zenou were able to escape and make a little counter attack. But overall it was still an exchange which Keisha 'won', albeit there was no critical damage.

    Styles as in Kisui being 100% focused on the civilians of Rigan. Perhaps 'weakness' would be a better phrase. Keisha's style + own weakness was obvious with the web stuff which Riboku and Kinmou talked about.
    You do realize Kisui never was Commander in Chief? When Kinmou suggested that Kisui already planned to leave. Kinmou was leading Keisha's army and Kisui was leading Rigan army. At the end when Kinmou begged Kisui to stay and suggested that he is Commander in Chief, that other guy was protesting. Do you read manga?

    When Keisha died, Kisui remained to lead Rigan army and Kinmou lead Zhao army. Can you comprehend this?

    Kisui did not take half his army. He took his whole army. Rigan army that he came to war with. I don't even know what are you talking about. War ended because of blackmail. That does not make Kanki better general than Kisui. Are you insane?

    Keisha cost the Zhao war. Can you comprehend this. The guy in charge who got himself killed because of stupidity.

    Jesus Christ are you for real? Kanki did not outplay Kisui.Kisui was WELL AWARE that it was most likely a trick but he could not RISK his hometown just because of some hill that they can just abandon.

    Are you capable of seeing difference?

    Didn't you understand manga? I mean you 100% didn't understand the manga obviously. Kisui fucking knew that it was most likely a trick. BUT KISUI SIMPLY COULD NOT RISK IT. Are you able to grasp this?

    Kisui made a choice of what is more important to him. Risk of losing Rigan, or shitty Hill that he can't care less about. And he made his choice well aware of what is happening.

    Kanki blackmailed Kisui how does that make him greater general on the field?

    No it is you who fucking need to go and reread manga. Keisha did not set up a trap. It was Kisuis gamble that made Kanki move Raido and Zenou further ahead. It was not Keisha's doing it was Kisuis doing.

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    Because of Shin failure to push, Kanki was forced to make Zenou and Raido push further than planned to salvage the Shins fuck up. And that is all thanks to Kisui. It was not Keisha's trap. It was Kisui's doing that resulted that.

    You literally have no manga comprehension. And you tell me to reread manga


    Sooooo you concluded that Kisui's style of fighting is "being 100% focused on the Rigan civilians". Bravo.


    Is Kisui bringing Rigan with him to every battlefield?

    Jesus Christ what a bunch of nonsense.

    Kisui > Keisha.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    You do realize Kisui never was Commander in Chief? When Kinmou suggested that Kisui already planned to leave. Kinmou was leading Keisha's army and Kisui was leading Rigan army. At the end when Kinmou begged Kisui to stay and suggested that he is Commander in Chief, that other guy was protesting. Do you read manga?

    When Keisha died, Kisui remained to lead Rigan army and Kinmou lead Zhao army. Can you comprehend this?

    Kisui did not take half his army. He took his whole army. Rigan army that he came to war with. I don't even know what are you talking about. War ended because of blackmail. That does not make Kanki better general than Kisui. Are you insane?

    Keisha cost the Zhao war. Can you comprehend this. The guy in charge who got himself killed because of stupidity.

    Jesus Christ are you for real? Kanki did not outplay Kisui.Kisui was WELL AWARE that it was most likely a trick but he could not RISK his hometown just because of some hill that they can just abandon.

    Are you capable of seeing difference?

    Didn't you understand manga? I mean you 100% didn't understand the manga obviously. Kisui fucking knew that it was most likely a trick. BUT KISUI SIMPLY COULD NOT RISK IT. Are you able to grasp this?

    Kisui made a choice of what is more important to him. Risk of losing Rigan, or shitty Hill that he can't care less about. And he made his choice well aware of what is happening.

    Kanki blackmailed Kisui how does that make him greater general on the field?

    No it is you who fucking need to go and reread manga. Keisha did not set up a trap. It was Kisuis gamble that made Kanki move Raido and Zenou further ahead. It was not Keisha's doing it was Kisuis doing.

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    Because of Shin failure to push, Kanki was forced to make Zenou and Raido push further than planned to salvage the Shins fuck up. And that is all thanks to Kisui. It was not Keisha's trap. It was Kisui's doing that resulted that.

    You literally have no manga comprehension. And you tell me to reread manga


    Sooooo you concluded that Kisui's style of fighting is "being 100% focused on the Rigan civilians". Bravo.


    Is Kisui bringing Rigan with him to every battlefield?

    Jesus Christ what a bunch of nonsense.

    Kisui > Keisha.

    I would respond to this properly, but your insults basically remind me of why so many on this forum consider you one of the worst posters around here. So yea.....well done m8. Bravo.

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    I would respond to this properly, but your insults basically remind me of why so many on this forum consider you one of the worst posters around here. So yea.....well done m8. Bravo.
    You mean you spout stupid nonsense. Your stupid nonsense get disproven. You got mocked. And now you are butthurt and gonna "ignore" me. Yeah it is pretty much standard pattern between me and idiots that spout nonsense.
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    Zoro would beat Sanji with even less difficulty than he beat Pica.
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    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

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    You mean you spout stupid nonsense. Your stupid nonsense get disproven. You got mocked. And now you are butthurt and gonna "ignore" me. Yeah it is pretty much standard pattern between me and idiots that spout nonsense.

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    That CUNT SpiRo can get the fuck out. The act of watching graphic stuff like that is not in and of itself bad. Ive always had a fascination with snuff and disturbing films. If youre going to argue that im not a good person or whatever because of that, then i guess every single person who likes action movies, manga, sports or anything that contains physical combat and violence must also be the same. There is a distinction between having an INTEREST in something and ADVOCATING or APPROVING of it.
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    Even Base Teach was able to defeat that pre-prime Shanks.
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    Akainu couldn't continue fighting while WB could. Pretty clear cut to me.
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    Yes Fujitora is one of the fastest characters in the world if you did not know well you learned something today.
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    Zoro>Vergo>Smoker>Sanji
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    Akainu, by some luck, didn't fall into the sea, he probably caught a piece of ground and cling onto it until he regained his consciousness.
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    Also we know that BM already defeated Kaido at least once or even twice.
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    September 8, 2008: Chapter 513: Sentoumaru explains Kuma's ability.
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    okey.
    So, Shanks is the protege of the PK? and Mihawk is the protege of the Apes king ? both of them were on the same ship idiot, not even a hint on who Roger preferred from the both in the manga, and when did i fucking say that Shanks has no potential, didn't even say that he falls to Mihawk in that aspect, i'm merely saying that we can say who.

    Monkey, Mihawk said that he ain't fighting Shanks in that specific meeting of their, and it was in a sarcastic way of denying because he didn't come for fighting unlike usual, he came for showing him Luffy's poster.
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    Every CoA is hardening but not every hardening is CoA
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    Retard, Shanks lost deliberately to that marine snake. Why would he want to heal his lost arm.
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    I understand you want to pride yourself with my sayings in ur sig but don't overdo it, ur sig reeks shit so it doesn't stand to it.
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    Of course my sig reeks of shit when i have you in my sig.
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