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    Post Rants and Banter with VICE (read the rules !)

    Hello and welcome to my Blog and reaction thread.

    It will have an archive page for Blog posts, where I talk about worldly topics and tmf-centric stuff. Those will be written in this font.

    I will also give my opinion no one asked for for incidents and such that aren't related to me, but are TMF-based.

    Viewers are meant to post here to give insight, and I wish to invite certain people for Q&A in the future.

    I will probably go over this post a million times, for now I'll just create the thread, and start piling up things here.

    Rules:

    Please avoid spam. Do posts that relate to either the rant I've released, or my reaction to a tmf-incident.

    Don't try to dig up old topics once they've been discussed enough. if I'm on topic #4, don't pull up topic #3 and try derailing the current topic.

    These opinions will only come from my mind and don't represent TMF.

    Be excellent. this is a thread where I can and will double-post, but I encourage you to engage if you feel like it
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    Archive for later use.

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    Reaction to the thread "An Indictment against Nightfall"

    We start with a callout thread.

    The user who started this @ReXDrake; has beef with the current moderator of Punk Hazard and its sub-sections, @Nightfall;

    I will address the back and forth between them, and later state how the reaction from others was in generalized terms.

    First off, the opening post is clearly meant not meant to discuss with the opposing side. how pathetic, that is. You go and do a thread for the purpose of expressing felt injustice, but fail to see that you will be judged on how you present the case.

    warning, nsfw-language below.
    Go fuck yourself, you disingenuous, cowardly, corrupt little cunt. [1.]


    This sets a bad precedent. the points made afterwards are rather pointless when you know there will be no calm discussion about the issue.

    Nightfall doesn't do much better here either. while he holds a more calmer tone, he doesn't try to mend the damage or explain his ways.

    Now, since it is a open thread, @Batou; chimes in with a line like this

    rexdrake has a point here, i've never seen a mod close as many thread as nightfall does. most of baba's threads get closed instantly, nightfall gives people infractions for shitposting, (...)

    it really killed some of the light-hearted atmosphere that this forum had and needs. [2.]
    It's a strong point to make, and as a staff member, and as a person who thinks the same, I will address it.

    Yes, I am of the mindset that even if my vocation is to be a mod, If I can't debate down attempts to instigate rage in other members, I should still allow all threads grow and die on their own.

    for objectiveness sake, I shall quote few key rules related. [3.]

    I. General Rules


    All members of TMF are expected to adhere to these basic rules at all times.




    A. Flaming: Flaming is defined as hostile interaction between two or more members. The staff will take action when it's discovered that one member is being repeatedly harassed by another member, if the flaming is heavily derailing a thread or if the flaming is deemed detrimental to the site in general. The staff will issue a warning if it reached that point and continued offenses will lead to a ban.
    III. Punishments
    Punishments are given out based on a three strike system. a person with three infractions at any one time will be automatically banned for a period to be determined by the staff based on the severity of the offenses. Infractions that are expired do not count towards a person being banned and no non-expiring infractions will ever be given.


    The staff reserves the right to bypass the three strike system and ban a person immediately for offenses such as but not limited to unauthorized duping and posting pornography and/or graphic images outside of the 18+ section intentionally.
    IV. Staff Guidelines

    This post is meant to outline the guidelines that the staff needs to operate by, so as to minimize mistakes on our part and to be as efficient as possible. If any of us have any doubt as to how we should handle things, we should first look here to see if we can find the answers that we seek.


    Staff Etiquette


    As members of the staff, we are meant to set an example to the rest of the forum. It is, therefore, of extreme important that we act as ideally as possible. We should always be kind to members and refrain from flaming them. If we are debating with a member, we are required to do so calmly and fairly. Not adhering to this makes the staff, and therefore TMF itself, look bad. If one of us acts in a way unbecoming of a staff member, it is the job of the other members of the staff to remind them to act properly. Furthermore, since we have more responsibility than the normal member if we ever break any rules we will be punished more severely than a normal member would. A mod would be punished more than a normal member, a super mod more than a mod and an admin more than a super mod.
    II. Reputation

    A. Exploiting the Reputation System: Exploiting the reputation system is against the rules and anyone caught doing so will be dealt with disciplinary action. Examples of exploiting the reputation system include but are not limited to:


    1. Revenge Negging: Negging someone solely because they negged you
    2. Rep Circles: Colluding with one or more members to try and illegitimately gain rep.
    3. Excessively Negging One Individual: Constantly negging one individual for no good reason.

    these are out of order because the last one is one with the least weight.

    first. Flaming. I don't know which threads in question incited this outrage, but I've been around the block enough times to know most of it goes unhindered and debates are chock full of ad hominem.

    side note: in this thread, the way our staff member @Y; reacted to the user @Zentos; 's shows how there really is no bar for etiquette for mods. but there should be. we all deserve to be called on it.

    For one, I'm not obligated to give you any justification so fuck off with the demanding tone.

    Two, I rather not have the forum became a place where you have to watch your every post in fear of getting banned or some shit, as long-term members already pointed out it ruins what makes this board stand out.

    have a nice day Sir Cuckinston, I'm not bothering with this. [4.]
    the line in bold is unwarranted for.

    I feel like this was never about rex and nightfall. it's this culture of outrage and self-justification. People aren't aware most of the time how they act irrationally, and it shows here. What Nightfall did or didn't do, is not the thing that people are upset about. They're upset about how by the staff trying to limit their adversaries they don't see how they've become more similar to those they hated to debate.

    Mod Etiquette needs to become a thing, and people need to learn how to state outrage without cussing so much.

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    Uh, I'm going to say I wouldn't have done anything differently if I got to repeat it and.. that's all.

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    Youre a cunt too VICE, I exchanged words with you in the chatbox a few years ago when you were trolling

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    Youre a cunt too VICE, I exchanged words with you in the chatbox a few years ago when you were trolling
    Wow you sure know how to hold a grudge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dai Don Dedede View Post
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    Wow you sure know how to hold a grudge
    Hey, if someone has wronged me without cause, the onus is on them to make amends. All it takes for me to dispense with my hatred is a sincere apology, and ive reconciled with several people on here so you cant say that im unreasonable in my stance towards enemies

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    I love how VICE just does these really random flame bait threads, but dresses it up as his 'blog of the day' when its really just him acting self righteus and calling people out. Like how on earth could that post end well

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    If mod etiquette is reinforced they stop being themselves. IMO the only thing staff needs to worry about is using their powers fair and accurately. Sometimes ad hominem keeps shit lit. If you want to call me a scumbag for disagreeing with you go right ahead. I don't care if you're a mod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    Hey, if someone has wronged me without cause, the onus is on them to make amends. All it takes for me to dispense with my hatred is a sincere apology, and ive reconciled with several people on here so you cant say that im unreasonable in my stance towards enemies
    Swallow my semen and don't you dare to swallow it.


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    yeah I'm a cunt but I don't need to keep that up every single day. How is it shameful to express opinions on subjective issues like these?

    I remember the banter with Rex, and really, not every day is one where you're at your most esteemed. I never take issues i might have then to the next day.

    I apologize @ReXDrake; if you were insulted by something i said. for what it's worth, probably didn't mean it like you couldn't change from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VICE View Post
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    yeah I'm a cunt but I don't need to keep that up every single day.
    you been feelin down lately or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ccrack View Post
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    you been feelin down lately or something?
    I was away for a year and realized that tmf didn't change, I did. Not in a major way, but I take a more nuanced stance now on things. If people choose to get upset, I know I wasn't never meant to please them. This blog just helps channel my thoughts better.

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    If mod etiquette is reinforced they stop being themselves. IMO the only thing staff needs to worry about is using their powers fair and accurately. Sometimes ad hominem keeps shit lit. If you want to call me a scumbag for disagreeing with you go right ahead. I don't care if you're a mod.
    You can disagree but if there's been a rule set, who dictates what rules to follow and not?

    That's a question that often falls into semantics.

    You don't need to think of me as a mod, like I'm different. But the rules specify a certain code of conduct and we should adhere to it better. But chosing to stop flaming like it's been here, could seem like things becoming lifeless and monotone. But we don't live in that kind of black abd white world. Things would be similar.

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    k, let me 'splain you.

    ready?

    you will never be as manly as rax.



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    Nothing wrong with incest whatsoever, so this concern that the normalization of homosexuality will cause it to become less stigmatized is completely unwarranted



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    Quote Originally Posted by VICE View Post
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    yeah I'm a cunt but I don't need to keep that up every single day. How is it shameful to express opinions on subjective issues like these?

    I remember the banter with Rex, and really, not every day is one where you're at your most esteemed. I never take issues i might have then to the next day.

    I apologize @ReXDrake; if you were insulted by something i said. for what it's worth, probably didn't mean it like you couldn't change from it.
    Thanks a million. I apologize for calling you a cunt, since its clear that you aren't one

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    Swallow my semen and don't you dare to swallow it.
    You really are an insufferable piece of shit. Your beloved prophet would be ashamed of you

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    Thanks a million. I apologize for calling you a cunt, since its clear that you aren't one

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    You really are an insufferable piece of shit. Your beloved prophet would be ashamed of you
    Don't you dare to swallow it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex D. Boss View Post
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    Don't you dare to swallow it.
    real men aren't gentlemen.




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    Nothing wrong with incest whatsoever, so this concern that the normalization of homosexuality will cause it to become less stigmatized is completely unwarranted



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex D. Boss View Post
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    Don't you dare to swallow it.
    Any more bullshit from you, and I wont speak to you anymore.

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    Blog #1

    Alright, I guess it's time I told something here.

    Now this is from a talk I had with my sister, who is a qualified nurse. You'll know why that matters later.

    It was few months ago when this began. I had seen an interview on Youtube about a former Planned Parenthood worker. and one thing stuck to me. 2nd and 3rd Trimester abortions were more common than you'd think.

    I felt something churn in my stomach and it ruined my day. I was cursed with this knowledge of how absurdly late abortions can get in US, having never been there and just being accustomed to abortions ending at 23 weeks legally. I used to think that abortions were very Matter-of-fact and simple. That it's just a choice, and a quick stop at the doctors. no fuss, sunshine afterwards. But once you see an animated abortion procedure of a baby in 2nd trimester, how they rip off the limbs and crush the skull, then drain the belly of the remains. You get a bit more jaded. and I talked about how in US they will perform third trimester abortions, to my sister, who had never heard of that being even remotely legal. and neither did her spouse, who's another nurse.

    I stumbled upon this knowledge, which is ironic given that they didn't. Abortions are never really talked about in that context. how graphic the procedure is even in 2nd trimester, and how bat-shit insane it then seems that abortions would be performed right until moment of birth.

    I've been Pro-choice. but do you even see those questions? how do you honestly pick between Pro-life vs Pro-choice. I can't be black and white on that, I'd hate myself accepting abortion on late stages like 3rd trimester. even 2nd trimester abortions make me hate humanity if it was for social or economical reasons.

    I'd like to say there's a silver lining, but there isn't. we just chatted about this and how appalling it feels after you really narrate it through your head. all the steps abortion includes. real possibility of irreversible damage to a woman, causing her to become infertile.

    I know the selling point for abortion is the woman's choice, and how the ultrasound can reveal health risks for either the baby or the mother. I know, and I understand the latter. bit skeptical on how long on the pregnancy I accept the other. Have you been around pregnant women? There's hormonal imbalance, mood swings, weird cravings, and stress. We aren't rational at best of times. One could be more susceptible to suggestions like abortion because "you're just not ready"

    and some might be valid. but I feel like there is a time limit.

    yeah that's it... Fuck Planned Parenthood.


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    oh yeah, context.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpmh4SSq2xE&t=12s (interview)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESqdmQFTNhE (2nd trimester video, animated)

    click the second at your own risk.
    Last edited by VICE; 04-16-2017 at 11:20 PM.

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