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    Mougou vs Kousonryuu.

    120,000 vs 120,000.

    IC.
    Fight on plains.
    No subs.

    R2: Add Choutou to Mougou's side and Kisui to Kousonryuu's, now it's 100K for Qin and 120K for Zhao.

    If Zhao is too outmatched in R2, give Kisui his Rigan elites.

    "It doesn’t matter how many times you get knocked down. All that matters is you get up one more time than you were knocked down."

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    Kousonryuu can't lead 120,000 soldiers.



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    Kousonryuu can't lead 120,000 soldiers.
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    I'd give him 50k at best, Zhao loses both

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    Alright, divide the soldiers.

    Kisui has 60K and so does Kousonryuu.

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    He lacks any feat good or bad.
    So Mougou takes it for now.
    My man Mougou is a GG in any case. He should get benefit of doubt here.

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    Kousonryuu would take anything below 20k vs 20k. For higher numbers I'll be starting to lean towards mougou.


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    Qin takes both scenarios.

    Mougou and Choutou are both Great Generals with tons of experience under their belt and will be comfortable handling numbers of this scale, along with having far more weight to hold out with.

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    Mougou is A GG in country full of beasts


    Kousonryuu is a general in a country full of average people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen Xin View Post
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    Kousonryuu can't lead 120,000 soldiers.
    Willing to swallow those words now?

    "It doesn’t matter how many times you get knocked down. All that matters is you get up one more time than you were knocked down."

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    Willing to swallow those words now?
    90,000 is still 30,000 off from 120,000. That's not a small number.

    Also considering factors such as whether Kousonryuu is leading the 90,000 with Riboku's instruction.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen Xin View Post
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    90,000 is still 30,000 off from 120,000. That's not a small number.

    Also considering factors such as whether Kousonryuu is leading the 90,000 with Riboku's instruction.
    That's why Kisui is there to help.

    "It doesn’t matter how many times you get knocked down. All that matters is you get up one more time than you were knocked down."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jjcb View Post
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    That's why Kisui is there to help.
    Now the number shot up to 120,000 troops.

    Keisha and Kisui together lead 70,000 only. This is with the help of Gakuei, Kinmou, Batei, and Ryuutou.



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    100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant
    300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai
    100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen Xin View Post
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    Now the number shot up to 120,000 troops.

    Keisha and Kisui together lead 70,000 only. This is with the help of Gakuei, Kinmou, Batei, and Ryuutou.
    Kousonryuu leads 90K and Kisui 30K.

    > Batei being worth a shit as a commander

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    Kousonryuu would take anything below 20k vs 20k. For higher numbers I'll be starting to lean towards mougou.
    i want to correct myself

    kousonryuu takes anything below 90k vs 90k

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    Now the number shot up to 120,000 troops.

    Keisha and Kisui together lead 70,000 only. This is with the help of Gakuei, Kinmou, Batei, and Ryuutou.
    Keisha lead 120k men in the coalition war though


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jjcb View Post
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    Kousonryuu leads 90K and Kisui 30K.

    > Batei being worth a shit as a commander
    Kousonryuu might not be competent enough to lead 90k by himself without Riboku's instructions.
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    i want to correct myself

    kousonryuu takes anything below 90k vs 90k

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    Keisha lead 120k men in the coalition war though
    Keisha had Rihaku, Kousonryuu, and Mangoku.



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    700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman "Snow Emperor" Xue Nu
    100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant
    300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai
    100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya
    700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen Xin View Post
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    Kousonryuu might not be competent enough to lead 90k by himself without Riboku's instructions.
    what do you mean?

    Keisha had Rihaku, Kousonryuu, and Mangoku.
    yeah, and they had their lieutenants and captains and squad leaders. That's how it works


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen Xin View Post
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    Kousonryuu might not be competent enough to lead 90k by himself without Riboku's instructions.

    Keisha had Rihaku, Kousonryuu, and Mangoku.
    We have no proof of him not being competent yet though.

    I'm not saying he wins, mind you, Mougou fucking rapes 90% of Zhao, but he can at least out up a fight now.

    "It doesn’t matter how many times you get knocked down. All that matters is you get up one more time than you were knocked down."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jjcb View Post
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    I'm not saying he wins, mind you, Mougou fucking rapes 90% of Zhao


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    what do you mean?



    yeah, and they had their lieutenants and captains and squad leaders. That's how it works
    What do you mean what do I mean?

    Kousonryuu is the only guy here.
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    We have no proof of him not being competent yet though.

    I'm not saying he wins, mind you, Mougou fucking rapes 90% of Zhao, but he can at least out up a fight now.
    His stats and his showings doesn't warrant it.

    It's not just that, Kousonryuu could lead 90,000 and lead it to disaster because of his inability.



    The Seven God Beasts

    1,000,000 Years Daydream Ice Silkworm
    400,000 Years Ice Jade Emperor Scorpion Hyotei
    700,000 Years Ice Heavenly Snow Woman "Snow Emperor" Xue Nu
    100,000 Years Octagonal Mysterious Ice Plant
    300,000 Years Ice Bear King Xiao Bai
    100,000 Years Sea Mermaid Princess Li Ya
    700,000 Years Evil Eye Tyrant Emperor


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    Kousonryuu can't match up to Mougou's weight.

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