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    Bajio versus Yuuren

    all unmounted and in the forest Kyoukai killed Yuuren

    Base Bajio versus no dance at all Yuuren
    Bajio (with access to beast) versus no restrictions Yuuren
    Beast Bajio versus no restrictions Yuuren

    Who wins and what diffs?

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    Iirc Yuuren > Kyoukai without plot armor..

    Until we see more of Bajio, She should take Bajio quite safely except Beast Bajio vs restricted PD

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    Yuuren comfortably stomps

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    Iirc Yuuren > Kyoukai without plot armor..

    Until we see more of Bajio, She should take Bajio quite safely except Beast Bajio vs restricted PD
    Yuuren doesn't dance, cuz his base is already as deep as Kyoukai's deepest dance moment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    Yuuren comfortably stomps

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    Yuuren doesn't dance, cuz his base is already as deep as Kyoukai's deepest dance moment.
    if Yuuren is a 100, then what are the Bajios?

    technically he doesn't, but he goes in and out of the uhh ... mode

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    Bajio, because I'll always bet on my boy.
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    Yuuren wins all scenarios. Yuuren was exceptionally strong and was demolishing PD Kyoukai. She did not need to dance, she was basically in that state already in her base.

    Berserk Bajio would give her a good fight but would most likely ultimately lose.

    Base Bajio versus no dance at all Yuuren: low
    Bajio (with access to beast) versus no restrictions Yuuren: Mid
    Beast Bajio versus no restrictions Yuuren: high

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    Base Yuuren wins, I think mid diff.
    Beast Bajio loses extreme difficulty
    No restrictions Yuuren wins win diff.
    Stick them on a horse and it's closer.

    I was under the impression that Yuuren is in her PD 100% of the time though.

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    Doesn't Yuuren only have one gear to begin with? Could be remembering wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
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    technically he doesn't, but he goes in and out of the uhh ... mode
    What I recall is he doesn't need to dance anymore because he reached a point where he can get dance effects without the stamina limits.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispinianus View Post
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    What I recall is he doesn't need to dance anymore because he reached a point where he can get dance effects without the stamina limits.
    yeah, he doesn't need to dance as it's a consciousness diving thing so he can just dive in and out in battle without having to worry about breath

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    well... I don't even remember the part of her battle vs Kyoukai... but i know Kyoukai was beaten pretty badly until the last part where plot armor save her

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    Yuuren is in constant state of PD just like Houken. Base doesn't exit for her.
    She beats any version of Bajio with at worst mid diff.
    And no plot armour didn't save Kyoukai. Her deepest dance was foreshadowed since God knows when.

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    Yuuren is faster than Bajio sure, but does she hit harder? If Bajio can tag her at least once, it could be game.

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    Kyoukai's blows were stinging Houken and Yuuren is above this Kyoukai easily.

    Yurren would hit harder than Bajio.
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    I wonder why it's so difficult to address him with "she" for me


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    She seemed to hit plenty hard and in any case if she outspeeds him to the point where she can get solid blows in vulnerable places she could be a mosquito and still win.

    Dancing Kyoukai forced Houken to stall until she broke her trance at the beginning of the series, Yuuren has no time limitations and is head and shoulders above that Kyoukai and Bajio's swords seem less effective at defending than Houken's Guandao too.

    It's impossible to properly gauge Yuuren's level without dance, considering that it was supposed to be less deep than Kyoukai's I'd say her base must be slightly above hers (I think stats gave her a 95 vs Kyoukai's 94 too so I'd give her the first scenario too

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