Vista wins high diff.
Last edited by Big Mom; 03-04-2017 at 08:40 AM.
Jinbe is closer to Pedro and Sicilian than their bosses.
Last edited by Big Mom; 03-04-2017 at 09:01 AM.
the GOAT in my avy
Well this might be me underrating the dukes but i don't think they should be that different in strength from the M3. Stronger yes, but not by very much. Current Luffy would most likely beat one individually.
You're right, except I'd exclude Sanji there. A single duke is around the same level as Luffy and Zoro, which make for an extremely close match. But a single duke can comfortably beat Sanji.
the GOAT in my avy
Sanji does seem underwhelming compared to Zoro at the moment but i'm pretty confident that will change after this arc and we can consider him to be atleast near equal with Zoro and also be able to give a duke a very good fight. We were talking Jinbie though but i guess you brought Sanji up since the two are usually considered equals.
Vista wins. Possibly with high-diff but I doubt it.
Then we have two SN praising their strength when both are super injured. One comment could be taken with a grain of salt but the Capone scene just reinforces what we're supposed to think about those two. That should weigh even more now that we're supposed to take Capone seriously too.
Then of course their subordinates are close to Jinbe's level. Pedro fought a guy with a bounty almost as high as Jinbe's and has a very high one-himself. He's pretty much Jinbe's counterpart in the current group. The Duke should easily be above Doffy in physical ability and Pedro&Sicilian are portrayed as way beneath their boss. Being confirmed Roger pirates helps their portrayal too. They were at least mid-20s back then, more likely 30s so they weren't just tagalongs like Buggy&Shanks but expected to help out fighting.
Full power Crack> Dukes> Original Cracker> Jinbe/Luffy/Ace.
Last edited by Dayum; 03-04-2017 at 03:16 PM.
Current Jinbei and Ace. That's like Jenbei and Luffy vs Vista.
I say Ace's team wins.
Vista is overrated here
Vista ~ current Zoro level
Ace ~ current Law level
Zoro >= Jimbe + Law
I do still view Capone as one of the weakest supernovas but it's rather clear now that the supernova are all supposed to be viewed as very strong so Neko scaring Capone like that is still some solid hype for them.
Also waiting too see more from Pedro before i put him at Jinbie level but he should definitely be atleast seat level with that bounty.
Last edited by Big Mom; 03-05-2017 at 08:58 AM.