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    I was more referring to how in America people will automatically jump on you if you don't agree with them on this subject

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobius Chair View Post
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    I was more referring to how in America people will automatically jump on you if you don't agree with them on this subject
    And that's understandable, because there isn't a single thing wrong with homosexuality

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    Im not against gay marriage.

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    Because they are by definition, homophobic. Why are you bringing up this land of the free stuff? Havent I said multiple times that people are allowed to have whatever stance they want? The arguments you listed are all extremely lame and easily refuted
    If they are so easily refuted, why havent you done so already? MC has raised a valid point

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    Quote Originally Posted by White View Post
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    Im not against gay marriage.



    If they are so easily refuted, why havent you done so already? MC has raised a valid point
    which was?

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    There are a lot of different secular and religious reasons that have nothing to do with homophobia for why someone may be against it

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    Quote Originally Posted by White View Post
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    There are a lot of different secular and religious reasons that have nothing to do with homophobia for why someone may be against it
    Care to explain how? You wouldn't be against gay marriage if you didn't have some issue with the concept of homosexuality deep down.

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    I dont think its necessarily having an issue with homosexuality, but rather having an issue with a marriage that isnt between a man and a woman. Do you understand what Im saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by White View Post
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    I dont think its necessarily having an issue with homosexuality, but rather having an issue with a marriage that isnt between a man and a woman. Do you understand what Im saying?
    perhaps its due to my very black and white take on things, but I just don't see how the two aren't connected. If you were against the notion of two people of the same sex getting married, (as I see it), that indirectly implies that in some way, you have a negative view of homosexuality.

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    perhaps its due to my very black and white take on things, but I just don't see how the two aren't connected. If you were against the notion of two people of the same sex getting married, (as I see it), that indirectly implies that in some way, you have a negative view of homosexuality.
    The definition of homophobia is

    a) Having a dislike of homosexuals
    b) Being prejudiced against homosexuals

    You can like homosexuals and think they shouldn't be married, likewise you can be brought up with a belief that the ceremony of marriage is something that can only take place between a man and a woman and that without there being both a man and a woman present marriage by definition cant exist. That doesnt mean youre prejudiced though, you could for instance be in favour of a civil communion between gay couples that offer all the benefits that a marriage would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White View Post
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    The definition of homophobia is

    a) Having a dislike of homosexuals
    b) Being prejudiced against homosexuals

    You can like homosexuals and think they shouldn't be married, likewise you can be brought up with a belief that the ceremony of marriage is something that can only take place between a man and a woman and that without there being both a man and a woman present marriage by definition cant exist. That doesnt mean youre prejudiced though, you could for instance be in favour of a civil communion between gay couples that offer all the benefits that a marriage would.
    which is a distinction without a difference

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    Exactly marriage at the end of the day is a service that some people think can only happen between a man and a woman, but that doesnt mean they arent in favour of creating something a service which is nigh identical to a marriage in nature just branded under a different name because you dont want gay couples to feel isolated and excluded. Its a matter of perspective, and I think to be homophobic your actions need to be motivated towards discriminating against gays and to stop gays attaining an equal footing as the rest of us which may not always be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White View Post
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    Exactly marriage at the end of the day is a service that some people think can only happen between a man and a woman, but that doesnt mean they arent in favour of creating something a service which is nigh identical to a marriage in nature just branded under a different name because you dont want gay couples to feel isolated and excluded. Its a matter of perspective, and I think to be homophobic your actions need to be motivated towards discriminating against gays and to stop gays attaining an equal footing as the rest of us which may not always be the case.
    I admit, its hardly the worst form of vilification that homosexuals can be subject to, but even so, uniting homosexual couples in a ceremony that's the same as marriage but given a different label IS being somewhat exclusive, as it differentiates between homosexual and heterosexual marriages needlessly. If both are afforded exactly the same entitlements in their respective unions, why give them different names?

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    You can like homosexuals and think they shouldn't be married, likewise you can be brought up with a belief that the ceremony of marriage is something that can only take place between a man and a woman
    "You can like people of color and think they shouldn't be married to white people, likewise you can be brought up with a belief that the ceremony of marriage is something that can only take place between people of the same race."

    That's pretty much exactly what people said about interracial marriage 60 years ago.

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    Exactly marriage at the end of the day is a service that some people think can only happen between a man and a woman
    Given that there are hundreds of thousands of married gay couples in the US alone, this is obviously false.
    What people believe is that gay people shouldn't be married. If it were literally impossible for gays to be married, then there wouldn't be an issue.
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    I'm fine with it as long as they don't force me or push me around like those feminists.


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    it should be illegal

    we must stop AIDS from spreading

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    The way to stop AIDS from spreading is fund more towards research on AIDS and educating people about it.

    You get rid of Salmonella by making it illegal to eat raw foods, you teach people to not eat not raw food and do research on how to limit the chances of contracting Salmonella and limit the negative effects of it.

    Do research towards a cure and inform people tactics they can use so they don't contract AIDS. Don't have intercourse with someone unless they're tested, use condoms, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobius Chair View Post
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    Why do you think it's so black and white like that? A lot of other people think this too; which I quite frankly don't understand. Funny how anyone who goes against the majority opinion is automatically labeled terms such homophobic despite this being the Land of the Free.

    Some people are against it because it conflicts with their religion (Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve for example), traditional home values, possible scientific studies etc.
    traditional values, religion, and pseudo science were all used to justify racism. Traditional and religious values can be homophobic you know, and if they prohibit something due to it being gay, well that's discriminating against gays by definition.

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    If you would not date someone of the same sex then you are a homophobe

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    Yes.

    Let them marry. They're also humans.


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