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    Moubu vs Strategical Generals

    some of them is hybrid, but oh well...
    50.000 vs 100.000. Can these guys hold or even kill Moubu in Plains without other brute help?

    Riboku
    Shouheikun
    Gohoumei
    Karin
    Ousen
    Gokei
    Renpa
    Yotanwa
    Ouki
    Kanki
    Tou

    A stalemate for a week would be considered Moubu losing. For hybrid case (Ouki/Renpa for example), they would need to avoid direct clash with Moubu and play with tactics if possible.

    well.. plain area would be pretty hard even with the numbers. Would some of them be able to hold him in Forest area (similar to Kokuyou) or in Mountain (similar to Ousen vs Ordo case in CW)?

    feel free too add some people if there're other strategical generals that i forgot to include in the list
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    Riboku- plains yes, other terrain yes
    Shouheikun- plains probably not unles you believe the hype , other terrain yes
    Gohoumei- plains probably, other terrain yes
    Karin- plains probably, other terrain yes
    Ousen- plains probably not, other terrain yes
    Gokei- plains probably not, other terrain probably yes
    Renpa- plains probably, other terrain yes
    Yotanwa- plains no, other terrain probably not
    Ouki- plains probably, other terrain yes
    Kanki- plains no, other terrain yes
    Tou- plains no, other terrain probably

    cue GP's tl;dr response about me underestimating Moubu and how he can smash through everyone here .___.

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    Gohoumei- plains probably, other terrain yes
    Gokei- plains probably not, other terrain probably yes

    you give GHM a yes while Gokei a no?

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    you give GHM a yes while Gokei a no?
    Gokei is too honorable, it's what got him killed against Duke Hyou. He'd refuse to turn his back on an opponent that broke through his formations while Gohoumei will pull out any trick in the book if it means coming out of the battle alive and squeezing a victory.

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    you give GHM a yes while Gokei a no?
    GHM has the Ryuudou, Gokei with his many formations couldn't keep Duke Hyou out (I know he had outside help but still ).

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    Gokei is too honorable, it's what got him killed against Duke Hyou. He'd refuse to turn his back on an opponent that broke through his formations while Gohoumei will pull out any trick in the book if it means coming out of the battle alive and squeezing a victory.


    you're not arguing Moubu would be able to take GHM in plain scenario?

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    So this thread happened, after all.

    Riboku - yes
    Shouheikun - yes
    Gohoumei - yes
    Karin - yes
    Ousen - yes
    Gokei - yes
    Renpa - yes
    Yotanwa - no
    Ouki - yes
    Kanki - only on favorable terrain
    Tou - no


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    Riboku, Karin, Ousen, Renpa, and Ouki are the only people in the list that could possibly stop and kill Moubu in a plains battle with pure tactics/strategies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
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    GHM has the Ryuudou, Gokei with his many formations couldn't keep Duke Hyou out (I know he had outside help but still ).
    Gohoumei's tactics have the same footprint, we've always thought safe to assume Gokei knew the Ryuudou as well.


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    Plains - Kanki and Ousen retreat. Yotanwa probably loses. Gokei and GHM are a tossup. The rest probably beat him.
    Other terrain - Moubu loses all.
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    So this thread happened, after all.


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    Riboku, Karin, Ousen, Renpa, and Ouki are the onoy one that could possibly stop and kill Moubu in a plains battle with oure tactics/strategy.

    why SHK failed when Ousen managed to do it?
    is it based on hype alone?

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    Ousen has more experience.




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    Riboku: Yes
    Shouheikun: Yes
    Gohoumei: Yes
    Karin: Yes
    Ousen: Yes
    Gokei: No due to his pride.
    Renpa: Yes
    Yotanwa: Depends on her mindset, if she is careless she will lose. If she is careful and doesn't stick her neck out she could take it.
    Ouki: Yes
    Kanki: No
    Tou: Yes

    All would win in other terrain.

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    Gohoumei's tactics have the same footprint, we've always thought safe to assume Gokei knew the Ryuudou as well.
    if you continue to spread your immature lies about "we" then we will petition to have you demoted

    but seriously, it's just you who thinks that for some reason, same with Reiou

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    I also think Gokei likely knows it tbh. Though not to Riboku's degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
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    if you continue to spread your immature lies about "we" then we will petition to have you demoted

    but seriously, it's just you who thinks that for some reason, same with Reiou
    It's shown in the chapter he's introduced in

    It's not up to interpretation, it's literally there for everyone to see!


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    It's shown in the chapter he's introduced in

    It's not up to interpretation, it's literally there for everyone to see!
    evidence for these claims?

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    evidence for these claims?




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