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    Gender and sex are different things.

    One is a societal construct, one is biological.

    There are two sexes, the gender question is more difficult to answer.

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    Gender and sex are different things.

    One is a societal construct, one is biological.

    There are two sexes, the gender question is more difficult to answer.

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    Yes gender is defined as differences as being male or female based on cultural and societal implications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bold View Post
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    That's called an anomaly. Just because someone's biology screwed them over doesn't change the fact that there wasn't a third type of genatalia created

    Also Google change their definitions and synonyms willy nilly. Like how they made isolationism a synonym for fascism a few weeks after Trump's election
    this is the thing u guys can't seem to get past. this isn't a discussion about a persons sex so genitalia isn't a primary focus lmao.
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    Calling someone a nigger is not racist.
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    Sex doesn't equal gender.
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    There is more than 2.

    Transgenders belong to a gender even if you like it or not.


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    I believe there are two genders, and transgender is just your born a male but become,or should i say feel like, you are a girl(or vise versa). You can be a girl but have a dick because not everyone can afford to have the surgery to change your genitals.

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    Yes gender is defined as differences as being male or female based on cultural and societal implications.
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    Incorrect. Here is the definition of 'gender' given by the Oxford dictionary:

    [mass noun]The state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones):
    Yes, what is considered feminine or masculine is often socially constructed and may change over time. For example, blue and pink being assigned to baby boys and girls respectively. Or how pants were once seen as exclusively masculine in parts of Europe in the past.

    However, while the traits of a gender may be socially constructed the genders themselves are not. That is to say that males and females are wired differently in terms of how they think and it is this fundamental difference between the two sexes that gives rise to the two genders. These differences are not social constructs, they are biologically hard wired into us and are notable from a very young age, before social conditioning can really get to us. There is actual research backing this up. Some of these differences can be noted even amongst infants.

    There is a reason that throughout human history there had been little to no talk of all these extra so-called genders. It's because the genders result from the two sexes being wired in fundamelly different ways. That is to say, gender is a byproduct of sex just like behavior is a byproduct of biology.

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    ​And transgender is not a third type of gender. It refers to when you feel your sex and your gender don't match, not a brand new gender.

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    A lot.



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    For everyone here who uses google as their primary source of proof... Please NEVER go into a real debate in your life. Only use certified sources like .edu .gov or some famous certified universities (which all usually have the .edu at the end).

    Why am I saying this? Because this isn't an "opinion" based bullshit, there is actual science out there discussing this. So there's a simple definitive answer (or will be if there isn't any at the moment).


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    Incorrect. Here is the definition of 'gender' given by the Oxford dictionary:



    Yes, what is considered feminine or masculine is often socially constructed and may change over time. For example, blue and pink being assigned to baby boys and girls respectively. Or how pants were once seen as exclusively masculine in parts of Europe in the past.

    However, while the traits of a gender may be socially constructed the genders themselves are not. That is to say that males and females are wired differently in terms of how they think and it is this fundamental difference between the two sexes that gives rise to the two genders. These differences are not social constructs, they are biologically hard wired into us and are notable from a very young age, before social conditioning can really get to us. There is actual research backing this up. Some of these differences can be noted even amongst infants.

    There is a reason that throughout human history there had been little to no talk of all these extra so-called genders. It's because the genders result from the two sexes being wired in fundamelly different ways. That is to say, gender is a byproduct of sex just like behavior is a byproduct of biology.
    Except that clearly isnt true, if all male and females where all wired in the same then gender dsyphoria obviously wouldnt exist. Some people dont identify as being male and some dont as being female, I dont understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp

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    For everyone here who uses google as their primary source of proof... Please NEVER go into a real debate in your life. Only use certified sources like .edu .gov or some famous certified universities (which all usually have the .edu at the end).

    Why am I saying this? Because this isn't an "opinion" based bullshit, there is actual science out there discussing this. So there's a simple definitive answer (or will be if there isn't any at the moment).



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    But to answer this shit... 2, you're either a guy with a rhino horn down there, or a girl with a gaping dragon. Period.
    Glad we've settled that Chess, Ill just bend to your crude logic because I dont have a phd in gender studies

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    Except that clearly isnt true, if all male and females where all wired in the same then gender dsyphoria obviously wouldnt exist. Some people dont identify as being male and some dont as being female, I dont understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp



    Glad we've settled that Chess, Ill just bend to your crude logic because I dont have a phd in gender studies
    Indeed you should

    Plus this thread will turn into one of those "opinion based" bullshit and that shit never ends. So trust me, you and me and everyone here have better stuff to do I am off to do other things now
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    Theres nothing opinion based about this. We're talking about gender not sex here, and gender is what you view yourself not what you where born as. Its psychological, not physiological. It clearly isnt as simple as you either have a rhino horn or a gaping dragon as you so delicately put it.

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    ironically enough, there's not much room for science in a discussion about gender considering it's more of a sociology and psychology related concept.

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    What about people with both male and female parts.

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    idk man, maybe a thread about sex would suit that question??

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    There are only two genders never get why people always make simple things so complex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendou View Post
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    ironically enough, there's not much room for science in a discussion about gender considering it's more of a sociology and psychology related concept.
    evolutionary psychology , General Evolution in relation to society and species characteristics come to mind though so I wouldn't say there isn't much room for science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
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    evolutionary psychology , General Evolution in relation to society and species characteristics come to mind though so I wouldn't say there isn't much room for science.
    not sure how this contradicts what i said or if it's even meant to. unless you think that evolutionary psychology is more integral to gender as a concept than sociology is. in which case id have to ask why.

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    Except that clearly isnt true, if all male and females where all wired in the same then gender dsyphoria obviously wouldnt exist. Some people dont identify as being male and some dont as being female, I dont understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.
    I don't follow. Gender dsyphoria is a condition where a person is of a certain sex but feels that their gender and their sex do not match up. The existence of this condition does not, in anyway, take away from the fact that a person's gender is a result of their biology. There is a myriad of evidence to support this view, which I will post later once I am at a computer. Sex is what begets a person's gender and that is why there are only two genders. If it's not male or female, it's not an actual gender.

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    I'm about to drop some truth bombs in this thread, because BOTH sides are getting shit wrong.

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