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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan12 View Post
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    And WB => Big Mom, that's logical to think that WB's no 3 = BM's no 2.
    no, that's not a logical position at all.






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    Based on crew scaling Smoothie being number 2 should be stronger than WB's number 3 but WB may be an exception and Mom's crew might be weaker compared to other Yonkou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    no, that's not a logical position at all.
    So you think WB's crew isn't superior to BM's crew while WB himself is superior to other Yonko (though only slightly)... That's very logical... Indeed

    Teach has joined to WB pirates because they were the strongest pirate crew except for Roger pirates. Because he thought that the chances of WB pirates would be higher than other pirate crews in terms of acquiring a very unique devil fruit power which is darkness. And then 4.division commander Thatch'i finds the logia fruit. It's not a coincidence. It's common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan12 View Post
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    So you think WB's crew isn't superior to BM's crew while WB himself is superior to other Yonko (though only slightly)... That's very logical... Indeed

    Teach has joined to WB pirates because they were the strongest pirate crew except for Roger pirates. Because he thought that the chances of WB pirates would be higher than other pirate crews in terms of acquiring a very unique devil fruit power which is darkness. And then 4.division commander Thatch'i finds the logia fruit. It's not a coincidence. It's common sense.

    You said it yourself- Old WB is at best slightly stronger than BM. Theres no reason to think his top 3 are any better than the top 3 of the other yonkou crews to the extent that vista could beat the no.2 of Big Mam, otherwise thered be a clear (not huge, but noticeable) power gap






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    You said it yourself- Old WB is at best slightly stronger than BM. Theres no reason to think his top 3 are any better than the top 3 of the other yonkou crews to the extent that vista could beat the no.2 of Big Mam, otherwise thered be a clear (not huge, but noticeable) power gap
    I never said WB's no.3 would beat BM' no.2, I said they would be equals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan12 View Post
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    I never said WB's no 3 would beat BM' no 2, I said they would be equals.
    doesn't matter. That would make the BM pirates a clear step below the other yonkou crews






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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    doesn't matter. That would make the BM pirates a clear step below the other yonkou crews
    They would win but slightly. WB => BM , Marco => BM's no.1 , Jozu => BM's no.2 , Vista => BM's no.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan12 View Post
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    They would win but slightly. WB => BM , Marco => BM's no.1 , Jozu => BM's no.2 , Vista => BM's no.3
    Not if vista is equal to smoothie. For what you said to make sense, the gaps between marco, jozu and vista would have to be almost negligible, and I don't think that's the case






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    Not if vista is equal to smoothie. For what you said to make sense, the gaps between marco, jozu and vista would have to be almost negligible, and I don't think that's the case
    I don't see why they are not between these two.

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    Logically the gaps between the commanders should be noticable to keep the power balance in ckeck, but simply regarding their performances at MF, their doesn't seem to be very huge gaps. Likely just MF being inherently inconsistent when it comes to power levels. I don't really think Marco did any better against Kizaru than Jozu did against Aokiji.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayum View Post
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    I don't see why they are not between these two.
    Because all the scenes of Jozu at MF were interlinked with marco rather than vista. He was still a standout, but the way those first two were shown in tandem with each other points to the gap between them being smaller than the one between jozu and vista






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    Because all the scenes of Jozu at MF were interlinked with marco rather than vista. He was still a standout, but the way those first two were shown in tandem with each other points to the gap between them being smaller than the one between jozu and vista
    And then when Jozu was taken down it was Vista who got scenes with Marco. Honestly Vista probably got as much if not more panel time than Jozu once the war kicked off. Kinda splitting hairs here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayum View Post
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    And then when Jozu was taken down it was Vista who got scenes with Marco. Honestly Vista probably got as much if not more panel time than Jozu once the war kicked off. Kinda splitting hairs here.
    isn't that very telling. That vista didn't start getting shown with marco until jozu was out of the picture.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayum View Post
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    And then when Jozu was taken down it was Vista who got scenes with Marco. Honestly Vista probably got as much if not more panel time than Jozu once the war kicked off. Kinda splitting hairs here.
    No, that's what you're doing. Whitebeard, Marco and Jozu were always the power trio of the WB Pirates. You just have a raging hard-on for Vista. He's a lower top tier, what more do you want from him? This?

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    Question; isn't vista The fifth commander and not the third?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven -The Quarkbällchen- View Post
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    Question; isn't vista The fifth commander and not the third?
    The commanders aren't ranked in order of strength, otherwise Jozu and Vista would #2 and #3 instead of #3 and #5.

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    Question; isn't vista The fifth commander and not the third?
    They think Vista is the fourth strongest WB pirate because of his clash with Mihawk.
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    They think Vista is the fourth strongest WB pirate because of his clash with Mihawk.
    Who's stronger than Vista if the next three are Jozu, Marco, and Whitebeard?
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    Who's stronger than Vista if the next three are Jozu, Marco, and Whitebeard?
    Maybe Thatch. Maybe Ace. Maybe no one else. I really have no idea, because Vista only appeared for a few panels and never managed to inflict the slightest wound on an opponent, and Thatch has shown even less.
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