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    Quote Originally Posted by barreltheif View Post
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    Maybe Thatch. Maybe Ace. Maybe no one else. I really have no idea, because Vista only appeared for a few panels and never managed to inflict the slightest wound on an opponent, and Thatch has shown even less.
    What the hell is wrong with you guys?



    This site either wanks Vista to death or downplays him to all hell.

    "Maybe Tatch" and "Maybe Ace" aren't answers.

    If Oda had intended for Ace or Thatch to be the strongest after Jozu, then he would have made it abundantly clear. Instead Thatch got murdered by Blackbeard offscreen and Ace then got captured by him.

    Vista, on the other hand, has showings against Mihawk and Akainu. Saying that he "never managed to inflict the slightest wound on an opponent" is downright fallacious considering that Akainu expressed equal annoyance with Marco and Vista's assault.

    This is the hierarchy of the WB Pirates:
    •Whitebeard
    •Marco
    •Jozu
    •Vista
    •Ace
    •Thatch and the others

    I don't know why this shit is so difficult to grasp.

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    The commanders aren't ranked in order of strength, otherwise Jozu and Vista would #2 and #3 instead of #3 and #5.
    Why do we assume the commanders are ranked in strength for every other pirate crew but not WB?

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    What the hell is wrong with you guys?
    Vista, on the other hand, has showings against Mihawk and Akainu. Saying that he "never managed to inflict the slightest wound on an opponent" is downright fallacious considering that Akainu expressed equal annoyance with Marco and Vista's assault.
    This is the hierarchy of the WB Pirates:
    •Whitebeard
    •Marco
    •Jozu
    •Vista
    •Ace
    •Thatch and the others
    I don't know why this shit is so difficult to grasp.
    Do you read your own posts? Vista is unquestionably above Ace and Thatch...because he annoyed Akainu?
    But no, I'm sure you're right. With portrayal like that, he has to be a top tier. Just like Bobbins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barreltheif View Post
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    Do you read your own posts? Vista is above Ace and Thatch because he annoyed Akainu?
    But no, I'm sure you're right. With portrayal like that, he has to be a top tier. Just like Bobbins.
    This is just pathetic. Most of the time, youre a reasonable poster and I find myself agreeing with you, but the way you've been carrying on about vista and bobbins recently is really pissing me off. I thought you were above this sort of nonsense. Ive welcomed and given you the opportunity to explain why vista isn't as strong as some of us think he is, and why the vista vs mihawk fight means nothing, but it seems you cant be bothered to even do that, and yet you've got the hide to have a go at me and others for our way of thinking and beliefs.

    Shameful

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    Quote Originally Posted by barreltheif View Post
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    Do you read your own posts? Vista is unquestionably above Ace and Thatch...because he annoyed Akainu?
    But no, I'm sure you're right. With portrayal like that, he has to be a top tier. Just like Bobbins.
    He attacked Akainu and come out unharmed. That's something. Bobbin never attacked an Admiral and come out unharmed.

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    They clearly are too afraid to even think of actually challenging Mihawk
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    Blackbeard doesnt have CoC

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    who actually gives a shit about Mihawk's title
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    BM wins midd to high diff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barreltheif View Post
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    Do you read your own posts? Vista is unquestionably above Ace and Thatch...because he annoyed Akainu?
    But no, I'm sure you're right. With portrayal like that, he has to be a top tier. Just like Bobbins.
    You should ask yourself the same question. You've been making the dumbest and most disingenuous comparisons for the past few weeks simply because your trying to force yourself into believing that a "less relevant character" can't possibly be stronger than your beloved Doflamingo but guess what Katakuri is going to be less irrelevant than DD but still wipe the floor with him.

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    Ace was given the position of second division commander because the position was open.

    Not because he was second strongest.

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    isn't that very telling. That vista didn't start getting shown with marco until jozu was out of the picture.
    It means Oda decided to flesh out the WB pirates more as the war played out.

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    I used to think Ace was the strongest after Jozu and Marco but after reconsidering Vista's strength i don't think so anymore. He was very strong but nothing is putting him on Jozu level which Vista should be around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayum View Post
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    It means Oda decided to flesh out the WB pirates more as the war played out.
    eh, marco and jozu having their silhouettes matched up with the C3 and the scenes of them stopping kizaru and mihawks attacks were much more impactful than anything we saw from Vista. Disagree if you want, but they stood out a bit more than him imo

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    I'll say smoothie because if she was a real woman I would totally let her ring me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaang View Post
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    I'll say smoothie because if she was a real woman I would totally let her ring me out.
    You mean "wring" right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ink Spot View Post
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    You mean "wring" right?
    no

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