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    Nine Sword style Zoro vs Vista

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    Current Zoro with Asura vs Pre skip Vista


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    Vista. Stopping Mihawk is a far greater feat than anything Asura Zoro has shown.

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    Obviously Vista

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    Come back to this after Wano, Zoro will have surpassed Vista at that time I reckon.

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    Zoro might have surpassed Vista after Wano but current Vista mid diffs Zoro.

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    Asura isn't a fighting mode. It never was.

    Could go either way, Zoro should be close to Mihawk right now, Vista was already equals with him.

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    Vista. Stopping Mihawk is a far greater feat than anything Asura Zoro has shown.
    Beating baboons on Mihawk's island is something that frightens Mihawk. Even enies loby Zoro could put up a fight against him,



    and current Zoro would do much much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan12 View Post
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    Asura isn't a fighting mode. It never was.

    Could go either way, Zoro should be close to Mihawk right now, Vista was already equals with him.

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    Beating baboons on Mihawk's island is something that frightens Mihawk. Even enies loby Zoro could put up a fight against him,



    and current Zoro would do much much better.
    You cant seriously think vista is mihawks equal. That notion is so incredibly nonsensical that it ranks as one of the craziest things ever asserted on here.

    Ive already been over this with you, all that controversial panel stated was that vistas swordsmanship was equal to mihawks, IN THAT PARTICULAR FIGHT. Theres absolutely nothing surprising about that, as they fought equally and neither was going all out, and nowhere did it say that vista was a match for mihawk overall.

    As for the pre ts scene, mihawk was simply surprised that zoro had it in him to defeat the baboons. Hed just made a speech at how zoro was disgracing himself by asking him for help and that reaction was meant to be a major moment for him as zoro was losing to the baboons earlier, in no way does it suggest that zoro could have posed any sort of threat to him. Also, you have to come to terms with the fact that mihawk, not vista or shanks, is known as the worlds greatest swordsman. You have to do some extreme mental gymnastics to convince yourself that vista is his equal or that mihawk isn't right up there with the admirals and yonkou in strength.

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    What's the point of adding 'pre-skip' to Vista's name? Do we expect him to have become much stronger?

    Anyway, obviously Vista. Jimbei isn't too far from the monster trio and look at his performance against a sleeping Big Mom.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Erkan12 View Post
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    Zoro should be close to Mihawk right now
    Alight, its confirmed that this kid is literally the biggest idiot on this forum. No one should even reply to him no more.

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    Vista.

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    Vista. Stopping Mihawk is a far greater feat than anything Asura Zoro has shown.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro View Post
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    Vista. Stopping Mihawk is a far greater feat than anything Asura Zoro has shown.
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    Obviously Vista
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    Come back to this after Wano, Zoro will have surpassed Vista at that time I reckon.
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    Zoro might have surpassed Vista after Wano but current Vista mid diffs Zoro.
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    Vista.
    Um... are you guys reading this manga properly?

    Did you see the crazy boost that Gear Four has given Luffy? It propelled him way past Doflamingo, who is a lower top-tier just like Vista.

    If Zoro has refined NSS as much as I think he has, then it will definitely eclipse Vista. Only problem would be a time limit like with G4.

    But this thread seems to imply that it's solely NSS Zoro vs. Vista, so I'd have to go with Zoro.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kong View Post
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    Um... are you guys reading this manga properly?

    Did you see the crazy boost that Gear Four has given Luffy? It propelled him way past Doflamingo, who is a lower top-tier just like Vista.

    If Zoro has refined NSS as much as I think he has, then it will definitely eclipse Vista. Only problem would be a time limit like with G4.

    But this thread seems to imply that it's solely NSS Zoro vs. Vista, so I'd have to go with Zoro.
    Yes I thought about, and I do believe Zoro's 9 styles will be as good as or at the very least close to the strongest G4 attacks. But NSS has never been used for more then 1-2 attacks so we don't how long he can keep that up, and even if he did keep it on like G4 who's to say that Vista can't keep up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kong View Post
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    Um... are you guys reading this manga properly?

    Did you see the crazy boost that Gear Four has given Luffy? It propelled him way past Doflamingo, who is a lower top-tier just like Vista.
    I saw that crazy boost Gear Four had given him still wasn't enough to solo Cracker, he needed a ton of advantages and outside help in order to pull a victory after 11 grueling hours. Vista I view as even stronger than Cracker, at the very least on par with him, and he doesn't have any exploitable weaknesses to drag him down in this fight.

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    Brook stalling Big Mom is a far greater feat than anything Asura Zoro has shown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Potato View Post
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    I saw that crazy boost Gear Four had given him still wasn't enough to solo Cracker, he needed a ton of advantages and outside help in order to pull a victory after 11 grueling hours. Vista I view as even stronger than Cracker, at the very least on par with him, and he doesn't have any exploitable weaknesses to drag him down in this fight.
    Oh, come on. That's a disingenuous argument and you know it. Oda purposely gave Cracker a hax ability that seemed as though it was designed SPECIFICALLY to keep Gear Four at bay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by giantbiceps View Post
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    Vista. Stopping Mihawk is a far greater feat than anything Asura Zoro has shown.
    Stopping ? That's Crocodile feat bro... Vista literally stalemated with Mihawk, and he could take that useless title from him if he wanted to lmao.
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    Alight, its confirmed that this kid is literally the biggest idiot on this forum. No one should even reply to him no more.


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    Oh, come on. That's a disingenuous argument and you know it. Oda purposely gave Cracker a hax ability that seemed as though it was designed SPECIFICALLY to keep Gear Four at bay.
    How was it designed to specifically counter G4 :/?? Luffy suffered from PIS more so than Cracker. Why couldn't he just fly around the soldiers and take out the real Cracker? They are an omni-directional shield with perfect reflexes and synchronized movements? No, there was no reason and that is why Oda off-paneled it and gave us a convoluted break down of how the fight went down.

    If a Wall of Cracker clones can halt G4 then Mihawk would slice him out of the sky. What about Cracker's ability was designed to stall G4 Luffy? Such a strange argument I can't even start to think of how you came of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kong View Post
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    Oh, come on. That's a disingenuous argument and you know it. Oda purposely gave Cracker a hax ability that seemed as though it was designed SPECIFICALLY to keep Gear Four at bay.
    He's a defensive wall. I don't see how his ability is any more a counter to Gear 4th than it would be to Drake, Hawkins, Kid, Killer, Sanji, Vista, or basically anyone else who would have to get through the biscuits in order to hit him. If anything I'd say Luffy was a poor matchup for Cracker because he's one of the very few people who could actually eat all of his biscuits to stop them from reforming.

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