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    Yan vs Wei

    Yan's Army of 120,000 attacks Wei in Choyou.

    The Yan Army is composed of Gekishin and Ordo's armies. Supreme Commander is gonna be Ordo.

    The Wei Army has Gouhoumei, Ranbihaku, Earl Shi, Gaimou, and Junsou. How does this battle go? Wei Army numbers 80,000. Earl Shi and Gaimou have 25,000 troops each. How does this battle go?
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    Yan gets rekted, they don't have the quality that Wei has and Ordo as CiC is a bad decision.

    Well, if Gekishin handles the forest and then flanks the center and Ordo does the same with the weidi/mountains, they could have a chance. Assuming the center hasn't been rekted already.

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    Even though they have the number advantage of 40,000?

    It'll be Gekishin(60,000 men) and Ordo(60,000 men).

    While Wei's army is spreaded out with 25k men for both Earl Shi and Gaimou and the rest of the 30,000 being split between different areas and the HQ.




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    It's hard to go into specifics because there's so many possibilities and we don't know where each general is placed, but ultimately Wei just have too many weapons here. Gekishin will probably come up with some strategy once he sees what GHM has done, but unfortunately there's too much haxx on Wei's side and GHM's head is so hard to take (which would render Wei brainless).

    Stick this battle in the mountains and I think Yan can win somehow though.

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    Even though they have the number advantage of 40,000?

    It'll be Gekishin(60,000 men) and Ordo(60,000 men).

    While Wei's army is spreaded out with 25k men for both Earl Shi and Gaimou and the rest of the 30,000 being split between different areas and the HQ.
    the number of men doesn't matter when nobody on Yan's side can take Gaimou/Earl Shi/GHM's head. Wei could easily stack the center and play defense (not on the mountain mind you ) on the other fronts, waiting for Yan to wear out.

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    battle ground being Kokuyou would definitely be a better battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
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    the number of men doesn't matter when nobody on Yan's side can take Gaimou/Earl Shi/GHM's head. Wei could easily stack the center and play defense (not on the mountain mind you ) on the other fronts, waiting for Yan to wear out.

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    battle ground being Kokuyou would definitely be a better battle.
    The Wei can only use the same formation as that in the manga.

    It's not like you can't kill Earl Shi and Gaimou unless it's a duel. Get the numbers to jump them yo




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    The Wei can only use the same formation as that in the manga.

    It's not like you can't kill Earl Shi and Gaimou unless it's a duel. Get the numbers to jump them yo
    Then don't you mean the battle ground is Choyou instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
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    Then don't you mean the battle ground is Choyou instead?

    morale is a thing you know
    I've forgotten.

    Gekishin/Ordo's leadership is 95 yo.




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    Why not make the supreme commander Gekishin? An odd choice to put Ordo there.

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    I've forgotten.

    Gekishin/Ordo's leadership is 95 yo.
    so? change?

    Leadership won't mean much if your men are getting slaughtered by the dozens each second with no back up plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
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    so? change?

    Leadership won't mean much if your men are getting slaughtered by the dozens each second with no back up plan.
    Duh.

    Tactics and Strategy are a thing you know. Gaimou ain't no Moubu as far as I remember. They'll pincer him with arrows, poison arrows(Gekishin's unit) and the likes.





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    Duh.

    Tactics and Strategy are a thing you know. Gaimou ain't no Moubu as far as I remember. They'll pincer him with arrows, poison arrows(Gekishin's unit) and the likes.

    yeah, but Ordo and Gekishin aren't those types of guys. One's a guy specializing in mountain warfare and the other guy reacts -> counters. They're no Chousou

    Gekishin doesn't have poison units, they're just called Poison Cats/Dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
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    yeah, but Ordo and Gekishin aren't those types of guys. One's a guy specializing in mountain warfare and the other guy reacts -> counters. They're no Chousou

    Gekishin doesn't have poison units, they're just called Poison Cats/Dogs.


    Fuck these lame guys. I'm outta here.




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    OP straight gave up on his thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
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    OP straight gave up on his thread
    I shouldn't have expected much with 92 and 85 knowledge stat.




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    I shouldn't have expected much with 92 and 85 knowledge stat.
    shouldn't have stacked Wei's team too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Void View Post
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    shouldn't have stacked Wei's team too much
    What if I gave the Yan 150,000 men?

    75k men each now.




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    What if I gave the Yan 150,000 men?

    75k men each now.
    Just take out Gaimou or Earl Shi

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    I can see ordo and geki winning tbh the problem is will they get reckless and engage gaimou or earl shi directly? Cause if they do they die

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    Gekishin's 92 stat is good when his 99 observation is taken into account. He's almost better when the opposition has an incredible scheme. He sees through virtually everything, it's just that he 'only' has a 92/100 level response.

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