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    The Captain America we see in the films is actually a blend of different Steve Rogers, and primary among those are the regular Captain America and an alternate reality Cap. His personality and character is inspired by the Mainstream or "616" Captain America, while his power set was inspired by the Ultimate or "1610" Captain America (when there WAS a 1610 to draw from, as that dimension has long since been destroyed.) So the Cap of the MCU (or 199999) possesses true super strength, super endurance (which all Cap's share), super durability, super speed (to a degree), an enhanced mind, and probably super healing. All of that without the racism, backwards thinking, or overly aggressive nature inherent to the 1610 Cap.

    Can he fight more ethereal god like fighters? I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Can he fight gods? Black Panther has gone out of his way to basically spit in the face of god-like beings even though he submits himself to the will of the Panther God Bastet, and his vibranium suit ~should~ have some defenses to magic even though writers often confuse just what Vibranium can and can't do (such as supercharge magic or explode when hit too many times). In the comics the Panther will utilize specialty items or armors to fight more powerful foes way beyond his physical range, and often times he will come out pretty good for it. Unless of course that god-like being is Namor supercharged by a fragment of the Phoenix Force, then Wakanda nearly drowns and leads to a civil war where people think T'Challa is being too kind to a man who tried to kill them and doesn't spend enough time on the throne. But hey if you'll forget about Avengers vs X-Men then so will I. Black Panther's best outcomes are ones in which he's had adequate time to analyze and prepare for a conflict, which is something he is always doing. Since we never really got the full range of what being "King of the Dead" did to him, we'll never really know how powerful he was. Though it seems like it really hasn't done too much post-Secret Wars. Or the writers just forgot he's meant to get a big mystical boost of power.

    Oh, and I'm going to regret this: Once upon a time the Black Panther was able to easily force the Silver Surfer into submission with a nerve pinch. Something which shouldn't be possible.
    If im wrong then please correct me, but im guessing the top level combatants in the MC universe are the "divine" like characters with the energy based destructive powers rather than humanoids who are primarily physical fighters (Captain America, Black Panther etc). I thought in comparison to the best of the best, those two were nothing special as cqc/martial artists, but I guess not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReXDrake View Post
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    If im wrong then please correct me, but im guessing the top level combatants in the MC universe are the "divine" like characters with the energy based destructive powers rather than humanoids who are primarily physical fighters (Captain America, Black Panther etc). I thought in comparison to the best of the best, those two were nothing special as cqc/martial artists, but I guess not.

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    Oh, you meant how does BP compare to the more powerful members of the universe? Not too highly. lol

    The BP shines best when he's able to bring his acumen down on a subject with time and resources. While he's great on his feet he's not going to be fighting Thanos on anything resembling equal footing without plenty of foresight.



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    Your thoughts?

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    Bad trailer.

    Reminds me of how in antman they had 2 antmen fighting, and everyone said it copied Ironman 1, and what do we see here? 2 black panthers. Fucking fuck that. Villains aren't fun as copies

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    You were made to be a TMF poster. You have the right temperament and can exchange insults with anyone. I know the majority of the site hates your entrails, but that just makes you more of a Temeffian to me.

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    The trailer still has me hyped. Initially BP's new costume was kinda weak but seeing it in action changed my mind a lot. Now the only concern I really have is them seemingly giving Kilmonger, T'challas old suit with some apparent upgrades. Hope that doesn't last long or it's given a unique touch in the end. All in all, still fucking hype.

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    I thought the trailer was alright. Can't wait for this movie.
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    Looks decent.

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    The trailer still has me hyped. Initially BP's new costume was kinda weak but seeing it in action changed my mind a lot. Now the only concern I really have is them seemingly giving Kilmonger, T'challas old suit with some apparent upgrades. Hope that doesn't last long or it's given a unique touch in the end. All in all, still fucking hype.
    The film looks like its focused too much on the superhero and not enough on the king of Wakanda

    Honestly I was hoping for some political thriller with superhero elements based on the comic panels you posted, instead it looks like its gonna be a superhero film with some political elements. Im disappointed, I was hoping for something different and not another superhero film thats grinded out the same superhero formula of the past decade. This looked like the sort of comic series and the sort of character that could have offered us something more.

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    The film looks like its focused too much on the superhero and not enough on the king of Wakanda


    Honestly I was hoping for some political thriller with superhero elements based on the comic panels you posted, instead it looks like its gonna be a superhero film with some political elements. Im disappointed, I was hoping for something different and not another superhero film thats grinded out the same superhero formula of the past decade. This looked like the sort of comic series and the sort of character that could have offered us something more.
    I mean the trailer looks flashy but it's definitely not gonna be the same. Just calling him a superhero isn't accurate because he's not. The panther suit he has on isn't a even costume it's more like a ceremonial outfit that represents the panther clan and it's religion. Also unlike a superhero he kills people, savagely, which is one thing I do hope they have him do in the movie by having him kill Klaw.

    But very action he takes is in the name of his country. Like for example in the comics the avengers had asked him to join the team to help save the world and whatnot so he did. However later on we found out that he really joined because he wanted to spy on them to see if they were ever going to be a threat to his country. Another example is when we find out that he had numerous highly advanced submarines/air ships laying underwater around America, which was to tell us that should something happen, he's ready for war.

    These aren't decisions a superhero could make, it's one a king has to make. That's why in the first trailer his father says a good man can't make a good king so we're definitely gonna be seeing him making some harsh decisions for the betterment of his country while delegating with his council and the UN.

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    I mean the trailer looks flashy but it's definitely not gonna be the same. Just calling him a superhero isn't accurate because he's not. The panther suit he has on isn't a even costume it's more like a ceremonial outfit that represents the panther clan and it's religion. Also unlike a superhero he kills people, savagely, which is one thing I do hope they have him do in the movie by having him kill Klaw.

    But very action he takes is in the name of his country. Like for example in the comics the avengers had asked him to join the team to help save the world and whatnot so he did. However later on we found out that he really joined because he wanted to spy on them to see if they were ever going to be a threat to his country. Another example is when we find out that he had numerous highly advanced submarines/air ships laying underwater around America, which was to tell us that should something happen, he's ready for war.

    These aren't decisions a superhero could make, it's one a king has to make. That's why in the first trailer his father says a good man can't make a good king so we're definitely gonna be seeing him making some harsh decisions for the betterment of his country while delegating with his council and the UN.
    I hope youre right, stuff like that is what I want to see. Maybe the trailer gave me a bad impression, so far I havent seen any avengers in it either so maybe they are taking his character seriously as well and they arent just gonna treat him as just another avenger like theyve done with Spiderman and The Hulk

    Like honestly he sounds like a great character, he just sounds completely out of place in the casual marvel avenger film. Like they seem to take every character and make them light, funny and cocky there is a real mould in terms of how a character should act in a marvel film and I hope they dont force him into that

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    I hope youre right, stuff like that is what I want to see. Maybe the trailer gave me a bad impression, so far I havent seen any avengers in it either so maybe they are taking his character seriously as well and they arent just gonna treat him as just another avenger like theyve done with Spiderman and The Hulk

    Like honestly he sounds like a great character, he just sounds completely out of place in the casual marvel avenger film. Like they seem to take every character and make them light, funny and cocky there is a real mould in terms of how a character should act in a marvel film and I hope they dont force him into that
    I wouldn't worry about it. The serious t'challa type stuff was supposed to be in civil war but was deleted.



    But now that he has his own movie we'll definitely see more of that.

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    Having seen both trailers, my sole complaint is that the primary antagonist is essentially just the Black Panther 2.0 in terms of appearance and fighting style. I understand that this is what Killmonger is supposed to be like as the film is presumably staying true to what happens in the original sources but as someone whose knowledge about the Marvel franchise is limited to what ive seen in a few movies and tv shows, I think the Marvel films as a whole should be geared more towards the people like me than the Makenzyes - people who already know their stuff really well and have read all the comics and original material relating to the characters.

    Transformers did this pretty well - you weren't required to have a very extensive understanding of the franchise or know a single thing about the "original material" to catch on to everything that was happening, and this should also be the case for this film. Not saying that the film adaptation shouldn't appeal to the "true" fans as well, but its purpose should really be to give people lie myself who know nothing about the characters or storyline a starter level knowledge base about everything that's going on.

    Which brings me back to Killmonger. His character has next to no originality in my opinion and that slightly detracts from the appeal to the film. That really is the only problem though. Everything else - the graphics, action, cinematography, soundtrack and stylization was as good as it possibly could have been

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