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    lol

    You don't put logic around with Gil. It doesn't work that way.
    I'll explain Hercs NP, God Hand.

    Hercules overcame 12 challenges in life before beeing acccepted into the realm of gods.Each of these grant him a extra life as a servant. The other effects are: Cannot be hurt by attacks of A-rank and below. An attack that killed him once will be rendered almost useless from there on out.
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    I'll explain Hercs NP, God Hand.

    Hercules overcame 12 challenges in life before beeing acccepted into the realm of gods.Each of these grant him a extra life as a servant. The other effects are: Cannot be hurt by attacks of A-rank and below. An attack that killed him once will be rendered almost useless from there on out.
    Siegfried does not feel like anything special anymore.

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    Siegfried does not feel like anything special anymore.
    Siegs perk is that he nerfs attack above A down. Herc takes the full force.

    You make it sound like Heracles isnt someone special
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    fucking hell.

    glad you enjoyed it though. Did you catch the little detail that ended up fucking Gil over?



    20 meters deep into shit and he still thought twice about pulling Ea out. Hadn't he done that he'd have kept that arm.

    Gilgamesh [Servant]
    Source: Fate/Zero material (2008-08-08), p.094
    Fate/Zero Dictionary
    The Archer class Servant of the Fourth Holy Grail War.
    Though he was summoned by Tohsaka Tokiomi, he
    ended up deserting his master and re-contracting with
    Kotomine Kirei. He is the strongest character in both
    Fate/stay night and Fate/Zero.
    In the boy-meets-girl story of the original Fate/stay
    night he was forced to yield to the universal law of "love
    conquers all", but in Fate/Zero he's free to show off his
    overwhelming, cheat-like strength without restraint. He
    could have ended the war in a single night if he truly
    desired to do so. But then, careless pride is the king's
    prerogative, and getting serious over something as
    frivolous as a wish-granter would be unbecoming. So,
    taking that into account, it sort of balances out the huge
    disparity in firepower... I guess?
    Gilgamesh [Servant]
    Source: Fate/side material (2004-1-30), p.059
    Fate Dictionary
    The Archer of the previous Grail War. Mankind's oldest
    king of heroes, who defeated Saber. For more details,
    refer to his status screen in the game.
    As no proper Heroic Spirit can match this man, he could
    be called the "Servant Killer".
    Without a doubt, he is the strongest existence amongst
    the Servants.
    Though he lost due to obsession against Saber...
    Though he lost due to pride against Shirou...
    Though he lost due to carelessness against XXXXX...
    ...the fact of the matter is that if he actually gets serious,
    he is a Servant that cannot be rivaled.


    enough of that, though.


    ...Kirei?
    I thought it was just a fancy way of grabbing his Ea

    goddamn. I can't believe his pride forced him to hesitate on using his trump card even at the last second.

    I always knew it, he was the strongest servant. Ea and the Chain of Heavens, literally how do you survive it?

    I liked that scene where Shirou couldn't catch a hold on Ea or even its structure for trace.

    Isn't Kirei that priest/master? I liked how Lancer slayed his ass even after being commanded to committed suicide.

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    I'll explain Hercs NP, God Hand.

    Hercules overcame 12 challenges in life before beeing acccepted into the realm of gods.Each of these grant him a extra life as a servant. The other effects are: Cannot be hurt by attacks of A-rank and below. An attack that killed him once will be rendered almost useless from there on out.
    A-class

    Which servants goes into that class? What class is Gil actually?

    how did Archer kill half of his life then? When did this happen?

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    I thought it was just a fancy way of grabbing his Ea

    goddamn. I can't believe his pride forced him to hesitate on using his trump card even at the last second.

    I always knew it, he was the strongest servant. Ea and the Chain of Heavens, literally how do you survive it?

    I liked that scene where Shirou couldn't catch a hold on Ea or even its structure for trace.

    Isn't Kirei that priest/master? I liked how Lancer slayed his ass even after being commanded to committed suicide.

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    A-class

    Which servants goes into that class? What class is Gil actually?

    how did Archer kill half of his life then? When did this happen?
    A-'rank' it's not a servant class but a statistic. Each Servant has 6 parameters, Strength, Agility, Endurance, Magic, Luck and Noble Phantasm.

    God Hand doesn't care how strong something is, if it's not Ranked A it doesn't work.

    A B-Rank NP is ridiculously above a swing done with A-Rank strength, however due to god hand the B-Rank NP would be negated.

    (A C-Rank NP is equivalent to a A+-Rank normal attack).

    Quick chart:


    the '+' modifier only gets activated due to certain conditions, B+ stats are only B unless some kind of skill the servant has applies. This excludes A+ (and A++) to an extent which can be at a constant high.
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    Thanks for the info.

    Is there any site to check out the statistics for the servants from FSN and FZ?

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    Yeah,

    http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Servant

    just scroll to the very bottom and then up a bit.
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    Saber's Noble Phantasm is A++

    Lancer's Noble Phantasm is only B!?

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    Saber's Noble Phantasm is A++

    Lancer's Noble Phantasm is only B!?
    It's B+, Ge Bolg is a special case though.
    Quote from the author.

    "On the other hand, those with conceptual effects, destiny interference types fall into a special category. With Gae Bolg (regular), no matter how much Arcueid might be superior to Lancer in numbers, she will be killed depending on her luck, you see."

    It doesn't need to be strong as it's always an instant kill, no matter how strong the opponent is if it connects. Literally the only way of avoiding it is 'getting lucky' (Sabers odds with A-Rank luck to survive Gae Bolg have been said to have been 1:2000). Chu also can boost Gae Bolgs raw power with Runes to reach A should he find himself fighting something like God Hand.

    Once Ge Bolg's name has been called, the cursed spear reverses the nature of causality, the meaning of "cause and effect" in the order of things, to make it so the cause of the "lance being thrust" comes from the effect of the "opponent's heart being pierced" by it. The actual action of the thrust is merely a formality, as the lance has already pierced the opponent's heart before the attack has even started. The "result" of "the heart of the opponent has been pierced" is created earlier than it is thrust, while the "cause" that "the lance has pierced through the heart" is generated later. Aside from great luck, it is a technique that determines "if it is released, the opponent is dead." It is also possible for him to activate it without actively striking the heart.
    The attack delivers damage equal to the opponent's own health limit plus the damage from the spear itself, so the wound will be fatal no matter the opponent once they are struck. If the target has "100HP", the attack will deliver "the damage caused by the spear + 100."
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    That is pretty darn broken...

    How did Archer survived it?

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    There are two versions of Ge Bolg.

    The thrust and the throw. Only the thrust carries the instant death effect.
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    Can't Lancer kill Gil if he used his thrust Gae Bolg?

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    Can't Lancer kill Gil if he used his thrust Gae Bolg?
    Gil has shields in GoB that work against conceptual effects, also the thrust version of Ge Bolg would require Lancer to get somewhat close.

    Author Q&A

    Q: Gilgamesh has no skills in swordsmanship, would Assassin win if Gilgamesh is caught in the range of Tsubame Gaeshi?

    A: Most likely, he will just defend with his armour, or take out some really unfair defensive armament that protects against Multidimensional Refraction Phenomenon, from the Gate of Babylon. However, Gilgamesh is capable of accurately assessing his opponents' abilities, so he would not consider having a battle of swordsmanship with Assassin the first place.
    now if you ask why he didn't consider Shirou a threat, Gil has a clairvoyance (Sha Nagba Imuru) that allows him to see all possible futures, but he actively suppresses it at all times.

    Even with this ability, his personality would cause him to reject certain world lines as nonsense.
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    Gilgamesh is just...

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