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  1. #41
    Ok I'm off tomorrow I will try and get my input then

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    here are my votes for now

    Keep Dosun -
    Get rid of Dosun - yes

    Keep Ikaros -
    Get rid of Ikaros - yes

    Keep Zeo -
    Get rid of Zeo - yes

    Keep Jango -
    Get rid of Jango - yes

    Zoro
    Ban Asura - yes
    Allow Asura -

    Kuma -
    Allow limited self teleportation - yes
    Keep restriction as is -

    Blueno
    Increase time in Doa dimension - yes
    Keep restriction as is -


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    These votes are finalized:

    Keep Dosun -
    Get rid of Dosun - Ultra, GP, Wealth

    Keep Ikaros -
    Get rid of Ikaros - Ultra, GP, Wealth

    Keep Zeo -
    Get rid of Zeo - Ultra, GP, Wealth

    Keep Jango -
    Get rid of Jango - Ultra, GP, Wealth

    Zoro
    Ban Asura - Ultra, GP, Wealth
    Allow Asura -

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    Currently voting on:

    Keep Blueno - GP, Ultra
    Get rid of Blueno -

    Add Capone - Kong, GP
    Don't add Capone -

    Kuma -
    Allow limited self teleportation - Wealth, Ultra
    Keep restriction as is -

    Blueno
    Increase time in Doa dimension - Wealth
    Keep restriction as is - GP

    Blackbeard
    Increase Blackhole to 150M -
    Increase Blackhole to 100M - Ultra
    Keep Blackhole at 50M - GP

  4. #44
    I do see a few point values I think could stand to be readjusted.


    60 Points
    Vergo
    Current Sanji
    Jinbei
    Magellan (Kinjite limited to 1 minute use)
    Current Smoker (No intangibility)

    50 points
    Kyros (1- Leg)
    Pica (Golem capped at 75m height)
    Ivankov

    40 points
    Chinjao (Flat head)
    Diamante
    Trebol
    Cavendish (Hakuba unlimited)


    Kyros is a 50, but what exactly does he offer that flathead Chinjao doesn't? He's a more powerful than Diamante and Trebol but they have more versatile options with their Devil Fruits, I just don't see any reason to buy Kyros for 50, he should be a 40. I don't think Ivankov comes out looking any worse than any of the 60 pointers either.

    Keep Kyros at 50-
    Lower Kyros to 40- GP

    Raise Ivankov to 60- GP
    Keep Ivankov at 50-

    90 Points
    Ace (No Entei, no intangibility)
    Jesus Burgess

    70 Points
    Law ((No MES, No Soul Switch,no Scan, Room limited to 25m radius))
    Current Luffy (No G4, no elephant Gatling gun)
    Bartholomew Kuma (No Self teleportation, Teleportation of people/objects limited to 150M)
    Current Zoro

    60 Points
    Vergo
    Current Sanji
    Jinbei
    Magellan (Kinjite limited to 1 minute use)
    Current Smoker (No intangibility)


    Burgess, ever since he lost to Sabo, isn't rated highly enough on the forum to sell for 90. Don't want to spend 90 points on a pure powerhouse just to be told they can't beat a 60 or 70 pointer in a straight up fight.

    Keep Burgess at 90-
    Lower Burgess to 70- GP
    Lower Burgess to 60-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Potato View Post
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    I do see a few point values I think could stand to be readjusted.


    60 Points
    Vergo
    Current Sanji
    Jinbei
    Magellan (Kinjite limited to 1 minute use)
    Current Smoker (No intangibility)

    50 points
    Kyros (1- Leg)
    Pica (Golem capped at 75m height)
    Ivankov

    40 points
    Chinjao (Flat head)
    Diamante
    Trebol
    Cavendish (Hakuba unlimited)


    Kyros is a 50, but what exactly does he offer that flathead Chinjao doesn't? He's a more powerful than Diamante and Trebol but they have more versatile options with their Devil Fruits, I just don't see any reason to buy Kyros for 50, he should be a 40. I don't think Ivankov comes out looking any worse than any of the 60 pointers either.

    Keep Kyros at 50-
    Lower Kyros to 40- GP

    Raise Ivankov to 60- GP
    Keep Ivankov at 50-

    90 Points
    Ace (No Entei, no intangibility)
    Jesus Burgess

    70 Points
    Law ((No MES, No Soul Switch,no Scan, Room limited to 25m radius))
    Current Luffy (No G4, no elephant Gatling gun)
    Bartholomew Kuma (No Self teleportation, Teleportation of people/objects limited to 150M)
    Current Zoro

    60 Points
    Vergo
    Current Sanji
    Jinbei
    Magellan (Kinjite limited to 1 minute use)
    Current Smoker (No intangibility)


    Burgess, ever since he lost to Sabo, isn't rated highly enough on the forum to sell for 90. Don't want to spend 90 points on a pure powerhouse just to be told they can't beat a 60 or 70 pointer in a straight up fight.

    Keep Burgess at 90-
    Lower Burgess to 70- GP
    Lower Burgess to 60-
    I'm not opposed to lowering Burgess to 70. But keep in mind that our current point max is 180. So that means, barring any changes, there's room for a Burgess/Doflamingo combo.

    With that said we should also consider changing the point max. My original intention was to encourage teams of 2-3 powerhouses instead of a central fighter + support. But I think Doflamingo and Cracker are already tough enough to face, so perhaps a point limit of 160 or so would be better.

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    @Great Potato;

    Kyros is a clear cut above the rest of the 40 point tier. What Diamante and Trebol would have to offer in "versatility" doesn't really compare. Kyros arguably would be a high diff fight for Luffy, Zoro, Sanji. 40 points is too much of a steal.

    At the end of the day, the problem is the character. There's no real reason to use Kyros. He's really boring. I wouldn't miss him if he weren't on the tier.

    Ivankov should go to 60, agreed.

    How much do you think Cracker should be worth? Blackbeard?

  7. #47
    Cracker, it depends on his restrictions.

    I think Blackbeard is fine where he's at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Potato View Post
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    Cracker, it depends on his restrictions.

    I think Blackbeard is fine where he's at.
    I think Cracker having just the biscuit he's inside would be fair, and put him at 110+

    Teach could go lower I think. Many here feel he wouldn't fair well against Doflamingo or Cracker. He should be at 90

  9. #49
    I think 90 would be good for Cracker with just that one armor.

    Certainly no more than that, get Nami for five points and you can neuter his entire defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Potato View Post
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    I think 90 would be good for Cracker with just that one armor.

    Certainly no more than that, get Nami for five points and you can neuter his entire defense.
    He's still far too powerful to be 90 even without his armor.

    Also, Nami doesn't have the convenience of magically not dying, here.

  11. #51
    Keep Blueno - GP, Ultra
    Get rid of Blueno - V

    Add Capone - Kong, GP V
    Don't add Capone -

    Kuma -
    Allow limited self teleportation - Wealth, Ultra V
    Keep restriction as is -

    Blueno
    Increase time in Doa dimension - Wealth
    Keep restriction as is - GP V

    Blackbeard
    Increase Blackhole to 150M -
    Increase Blackhole to 100M - Ultra
    Keep Blackhole at 50M - GP V

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    im kinda against adding cracker but if we wanna go for it

  12. #52
    Hows this looking Ultra?

    You guys can sort this out and ill go along with it. I trust you to make the right decision.

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    Hows this looking Ultra?

    You guys can sort this out and ill go along with it. I trust you to make the right decision.
    You lazy ass, provide some assistance if you're not doing your cyoa

  14. #54
    Id need to think about this though

    It isnt just saying whether I think X should have X ability restrained, its also allocating it a suitable point score relative to the other characters

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    Alright 24 hours until majority finalizes the vote on these:

    Keep Blueno - GP, Ultra
    Get rid of Blueno - V

    Add Capone - Kong, GP V
    Don't add Capone -

    Kuma -
    Allow limited self teleportation - Wealth, Ultra V
    Keep restriction as is -

    Blueno
    Increase time in Doa dimension - Wealth
    Keep restriction as is - GP V

    Blackbeard
    Increase Blackhole to 150M -
    Increase Blackhole to 100M - Ultra
    Keep Blackhole at 50M - GP V

    So vote asap, and if you have something else you'd like to bring up speak now or forever hold your peace.

    After this we'll move on to readjusting character placement.
    @Inanna; @Alex D Boss;

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    Keep Blueno - GP, Ultra, White
    Get rid of Blueno - V

    Add Capone - Kong, GP, V, White
    Don't add Capone -

    Kuma -
    Allow limited self teleportation - Wealth, Ultra, V, White
    Keep restriction as is -

    Blueno
    Increase time in Doa dimension - Wealth
    Keep restriction as is - GP, V, White

    Blackbeard
    Increase Blackhole to 150M -
    Increase Blackhole to 100M - Ultra
    Keep Blackhole at 50M - GP, V, White

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ill comment on more stuff tomorrow

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    Im against adding Cracker as well, even if you do restrict. I wouldnt mind adding a biscuit soldier though

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    Eh fuck it that's enough votes to decide now

    Keep Blueno - GP, Ultra, White
    Get rid of Blueno - V

    Add Capone - Kong, GP, V, White
    Don't add Capone -

    Kuma -
    Allow limited self teleportation - Wealth, Ultra, V, White
    Keep restriction as is -

    Blueno
    Increase time in Doa dimension - Wealth
    Keep restriction as is - GP, V, White

    Blackbeard
    Increase Blackhole to 150M -
    Increase Blackhole to 100M - Ultra
    Keep Blackhole at 50M - GP, V, White

    Forgot to take a vote on it but everyone except V seems okay with Cracker. If after discussion we decide we don't want him we can always undo that.

    We should also decide what Kuma's limited self teleportation allows.

    - - - Updated - - -

    On second thought I'd like to consider a few more restrictions on these characters:

    Luffy - All I want to say is we should add "No CoC knockouts"

    Pica - Character knowledge is an important factor in these match ups. And a big problem is most characters don't know how Pica's ability works so if you don't have a character that does you can't include how you're going to get pica out of the Golem in the strat.

    I think a fair restriction would perhaps be that Pica can create 1 Golem but cannot regen it. Perhaps increase the size it can assume if we do this. 75M is still really fucking big though.

    Enel - I think is worth unrestricting a bit. 50M on God's judgement is really silly considering much stronger characters like Ace with far more range. Give him a much wider range or no restriction. Also maybe unrestrict his 200M form.

    This would raise his price a bit but he's too affordable as is so that's a good thing IMO.

    Bart - He's far too restricted as is. As I said before I hate time restrictions but that would work better than having his powers nearly castrated.

    I would say he can use Dome and more than one barrier, but only on himself. No size restrictions on barriers. But one rectangle barrier at a time, for his team, is fair. That seems a little specific though. So I want to hear other suggestions on what to do instead.
    I think we can all at least agree with Luffy's.

    But should we change restrictions on Pica, Enel, Bart?

  18. #58
    Lets keep this moving.

  19. #59
    I'd be interested if you guys ever do this again.

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    Bring this back

    Charlotte Cracker with armor should not be allowed TBH. Characters that cost 40 should never be incapable of hurting the strongest available character. His durability typically is too absurd for this tournament. Takes zero damage from Luffy G2/G3 making any brute force on Luffy's level or below irrelevant.

    Since many teams can be built of exclusively 40 cost and below characters it means that often matchups are already decided concretely which seems like a bad scenario.

    Yes, and we should do this again.

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