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  1. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by Featherine View Post
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    I'd advise you to read ishtar's np Again
    It's listed as
    Anti-Terrain
    Anti-Mountain
    Anti-Volcano

    BUT

    Ozy's NP is listed as anti-fortress, yet it was calced by Y to be country level.

    I guess fortress can be country level if mountain is planet.

    Or Y sucks with calcs, brb making a call out thread for Y's ozy calc.

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    classification and actual power of the NP really don't correlate.

    for instance, anti-city and anti-country are often spoken of in the same breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhaul View Post
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    It's listed as
    Anti-Terrain
    Anti-Mountain
    Anti-Volcano

    BUT

    Ozy's NP is listed as anti-fortress, yet it was calced by Y to be country level.

    I guess fortress can be country level if mountain is planet.

    Or Y sucks with calcs, brb making a call out thread for Y's ozy calc.
    You said she shrinks the planet which is false don't try to run around it


  4. #484
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    classification and actual power of the NP really don't correlate.

    for instance, anti-city and anti-country are often spoken of in the same breath.
    What if a city in nasuverse is around the size of our average country?

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    You said she shrinks the planet which is false don't try to run around it
    > Appears in space
    > Has a planet in the background
    > Next she is holding the planet and fires it at you

    It aint rocket science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhaul View Post
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    What if a city in nasuverse is around the size of our average country?

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    > Appears in space
    > Has a planet in the background
    > Next she is holding the planet and fires it at you

    It aint rocket science.
    I guess VS is pretty weak then can't even damage the ground


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    I guess VS is pretty weak then can't even damage the ground
    Karna's NP? It destroyed a mountain in america tv cm, so it's mountain level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhaul View Post
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    Karna's NP? It destroyed a mountain in america tv cm, so it's mountain level.
    so much for that country ranking

    guess it's weaker than excalibur too


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    so much for that country ranking

    guess it's weaker than excalibur too
    What if I told you Karna's not a top tier?

    Could not even defeat Siegfried while knowing his weak spot.

    Enkidu would bitch slap that yes-man so hard he's going to beg his master to use a command spell to force him to suicide.

    Also, Excalibur is lake level.

    VS > Excalibur

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhaul View Post
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    What if I told you Karna's not a top tier?

    Could not even defeat Siegfried while knowing his weak spot.

    Enkidu would bitch slap that yes-man so hard he's going to beg his master to use a command spell to force him to suicide.

    Also, Excalibur is lake level.

    VS > Excalibur
    the only top karna is a 3rd rate lancer

    Enkidu running from pale rider like the めすぶた it is how pathetic couldn't even stop herc

    so you saying Y lied? guess ozy isn't country levek any longer

    VS couldn't even kill astolfo what do you have to say in your defense?


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    the only top karna is a 3rd rate lancer

    Enkidu running from pale rider like the めすぶた it is how pathetic couldn't even stop herc

    so you saying Y lied? guess ozy isn't country levek any longer

    VS couldn't even kill astolfo what do you have to say in your defense?
    Enkidu > Rhongo > Scathach > Karna

    Obviously Pale Rider scales to Enkidu, add the whole weakness thing and it's understandable that he fled the scene.

    Imagine having so much fun with your best friend and this pestilence comes and ruins your fun

    I would not stay around either.

    Nah Y did not lie, he just sucks with calcs, like Rax.

    Could not even kill Astolfo?

    No....

    Astolfo mountain level endurance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overhaul View Post
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    Enkidu > Rhongo > Scathach > Karna

    Obviously Pale Rider scales to Enkidu, add the whole weakness thing and it's understandable that he fled the scene.

    Imagine having so much fun with your best friend and this pestilence comes and ruins your fun

    I would not stay around either.

    Nah Y did not lie, he just sucks with calcs, like Rax.

    Could not even kill Astolfo?

    No....

    Astolfo mountain level endurance?
    Notice how i said 3rd rate

    Excuses what it gonna turn ya negro or something?

    Y confirmed Rax-tier calcer

    That sentence isn't wrong by the way


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    are you done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
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    are you done
    Yeah i've had my fun


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    Where would Romulus be on the tier list?
    All Hail Aldo Jones


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    cracks neck.


    Well folks, whose in for a little overhaul.


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    cracks neck.


    Well folks, whose in for a little overhaul.
    Musashi for upper S.

    Anything less is spite downplay.

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    I've only seen FZ and FSN: UBW but why is Gilles De Rais so low?

    Also I must have gotten the wrong impression of Angra Mainyu, but I don't really know anything outside of the two that I watched.

    Edit: You guys should make a human tier-list for the Fate-verse (I.e. all the masters and overseers etc.).
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    Rob always has the last word. In fact, I'd argue that Rob > God.

    At least Rob wouldn't give us the appendix and call it an intelligent design.

  18. #498
    Tier list for Stay Night/Zero/Apocrypha

    S Tier

    Gilgamesh
    Lancer (Red)
    Lancer (Black)
    Rider (Red)


    A+ Tier

    Berserker (F/SN)
    Saber (Black)
    Saber Alter
    Saber (F/SN)
    Lancer (F/SN)
    Rider (F/Z)
    Assassin (Red) (HGoB)


    A Tier

    Rider (F/SN)
    Archer (Black)
    Ruler
    Berserker (F/Z)
    Saber (Red)


    B Tier

    Lancer (F/Z)
    Archer (F/SN)
    Berserker (Red)
    Archer (Red)


    C Tier

    Rider (Black)
    Caster (F/SN)
    Caster (Black)
    Caster (F/Z)
    Assassin (F/SN)
    Amakusa Shirou Tokisada


    D Tier

    True Assassin (F/SN)
    Berserker (Black)
    Assassin (Black)
    Assassin (F/Z)
    Assassin (Red)
    Caster (Red)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
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    I've only seen FZ and FSN: UBW but why is Gilles De Rais so low?
    Probably, because his summons require sacrifice and preparations to use. Also his giant moster would die by himself after eating to much so it's posible to defeat it by just ignoring it (IIRC that wasn't the option in Fate/Zero, because Caster was attacking civilians and they had to do something about it).

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