Official Fate Tier List

[Salem]

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I'd advise you to read ishtar's np Again

It's listed as
Anti-Terrain
Anti-Mountain
Anti-Volcano

BUT

Ozy's NP is listed as anti-fortress, yet it was calced by Y to be country level.

I guess fortress can be country level if mountain is planet.

Or Y sucks with calcs, brb making a call out thread for Y's ozy calc.

[Y]

classification and actual power of the NP really don't correlate.

for instance, anti-city and anti-country are often spoken of in the same breath.

[Featherine]

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It's listed as
Anti-Terrain
Anti-Mountain
Anti-Volcano

BUT

Ozy's NP is listed as anti-fortress, yet it was calced by Y to be country level.

I guess fortress can be country level if mountain is planet.

Or Y sucks with calcs, brb making a call out thread for Y's ozy calc.

You said she shrinks the planet which is false don't try to run around it

[Salem]

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classification and actual power of the NP really don't correlate.

for instance, anti-city and anti-country are often spoken of in the same breath.

What if a city in nasuverse is around the size of our average country?

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You said she shrinks the planet which is false don't try to run around it

> Appears in space
> Has a planet in the background
> Next she is holding the planet and fires it at you

It aint rocket science.

[Featherine]

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What if a city in nasuverse is around the size of our average country?

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> Appears in space
> Has a planet in the background
> Next she is holding the planet and fires it at you

It aint rocket science.

I guess VS is pretty weak then can't even damage the ground

[Salem]

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I guess VS is pretty weak then can't even damage the ground

Karna's NP? It destroyed a mountain in america tv cm, so it's mountain level.

[Featherine]

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Karna's NP? It destroyed a mountain in america tv cm, so it's mountain level.

so much for that country ranking

guess it's weaker than excalibur too

[Salem]

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so much for that country ranking

guess it's weaker than excalibur too

What if I told you Karna's not a top tier?

Could not even defeat Siegfried while knowing his weak spot.

Enkidu would bitch slap that yes-man so hard he's going to beg his master to use a command spell to force him to suicide.

Also, Excalibur is lake level.

VS > Excalibur

[Featherine]

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What if I told you Karna's not a top tier?

Could not even defeat Siegfried while knowing his weak spot.

Enkidu would bitch slap that yes-man so hard he's going to beg his master to use a command spell to force him to suicide.

Also, Excalibur is lake level.

VS > Excalibur

the only top karna is a 3rd rate lancer

Enkidu running from pale rider like the めすぶた it is how pathetic couldn't even stop herc

so you saying Y lied? guess ozy isn't country levek any longer

VS couldn't even kill astolfo what do you have to say in your defense?

[Salem]

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the only top karna is a 3rd rate lancer

Enkidu running from pale rider like the めすぶた it is how pathetic couldn't even stop herc

so you saying Y lied? guess ozy isn't country levek any longer

VS couldn't even kill astolfo what do you have to say in your defense?

Enkidu > Rhongo > Scathach > Karna

Obviously Pale Rider scales to Enkidu, add the whole weakness thing and it's understandable that he fled the scene.

Imagine having so much fun with your best friend and this pestilence comes and ruins your fun

I would not stay around either.

Nah Y did not lie, he just sucks with calcs, like Rax.

Could not even kill Astolfo?

No....

Astolfo mountain level endurance?

[Featherine]

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Enkidu > Rhongo > Scathach > Karna

Obviously Pale Rider scales to Enkidu, add the whole weakness thing and it's understandable that he fled the scene.

Imagine having so much fun with your best friend and this pestilence comes and ruins your fun

I would not stay around either.

Nah Y did not lie, he just sucks with calcs, like Rax.

Could not even kill Astolfo?

No....

Astolfo mountain level endurance?

Notice how i said 3rd rate

Excuses what it gonna turn ya negro or something?

Y confirmed Rax-tier calcer

That sentence isn't wrong by the way

[Y]

are you done

[Featherine]

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are you done

Yeah i've had my fun

[Void]

Where would Romulus be on the tier list?

[Y]

cracks neck.


Well folks, whose in for a little overhaul.

[Salem]

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cracks neck.


Well folks, whose in for a little overhaul.

Musashi for upper S.

Anything less is spite downplay.

[Rob]

I've only seen FZ and FSN: UBW but why is Gilles De Rais so low?

Also I must have gotten the wrong impression of Angra Mainyu, but I don't really know anything outside of the two that I watched.

Edit: You guys should make a human tier-list for the Fate-verse (I.e. all the masters and overseers etc.).

[Cichy]

Tier list for Stay Night/Zero/Apocrypha

S Tier

Gilgamesh
Lancer (Red)
Lancer (Black)
Rider (Red)

A+ Tier

Berserker (F/SN)
Saber (Black)
Saber Alter
Saber (F/SN)
Lancer (F/SN)
Rider (F/Z)
Assassin (Red) (HGoB)

A Tier

Rider (F/SN)
Archer (Black)
Ruler
Berserker (F/Z)
Saber (Red)

B Tier

Lancer (F/Z)
Archer (F/SN)
Berserker (Red)
Archer (Red)

C Tier

Rider (Black)
Caster (F/SN)
Caster (Black)
Caster (F/Z)
Assassin (F/SN)
Amakusa Shirou Tokisada

D Tier

True Assassin (F/SN)
Berserker (Black)
Assassin (Black)
Assassin (F/Z)
Assassin (Red)
Caster (Red)

[Cichy]

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I've only seen FZ and FSN: UBW but why is Gilles De Rais so low?

Probably, because his summons require sacrifice and preparations to use. Also his giant moster would die by himself after eating to much so it's posible to defeat it by just ignoring it (IIRC that wasn't the option in Fate/Zero, because Caster was attacking civilians and they had to do something about it).