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    Official Fate Tier List

    God Tier:
    Tiamat/Beast II (Primordial)
    Goetia/Beast I (w/ 3000 years of human history)

    S:
    Gilgamesh, King of Heroes
    Enkidu
    Solomon, The King of Magic (Caster)
    King Hassan (Grand Assassin)
    Merlin
    _
    Artoria Pendragon (Lancer) (Goddess Rhongomyniad)
    Ishtar (Archer)
    Quetzalcoatl (Rider)

    S-:
    Ozymandias (Rider) (w/ Amon Ra)
    Cū Chulainn Alter (Berserker) (w/ Grail Support)
    _
    Scathach (Lancer)
    Vlad III, The Lord Impaler (Lancer) (Transylvania) (TLoD)
    _
    Karna, The Hero of Charity (Lancer)
    Ozymandias (Rider)
    Arjuna, The Fortunate Hero (Archer)
    Rama (Saber)

    A Tier:
    Alcides/Heracles (Archer)
    Hippolyta (Rider)
    _
    Achilles (Rider)
    Jeanne Alter (Avenger)
    Semiramis (with HGoB)
    No-Name Assassin (Assassin)
    _
    Arturia Pendragon, Alter (Saber)
    Heracles (Berserker)
    Artoria Pendragon, King of Knights (Saber)
    Siegfried (Saber)
    Iskandar, King of Conquerors (Rider)
    Agravain (Saber)
    Lancelot (Saber)
    Jeanne D'Arc (Ruler)
    Vlad III, The Lord Impaler (Lancer)

    B Tier:
    Mordred Pendragon (Saber)
    Chiron (Archer)
    Cū Chulainn (Lancer)
    Tristan (Archer)
    _
    Perseus (Rider)
    Atalanta (Archer)
    Nero (Saber)
    Tamamo (3 Tails)
    Brynhildr (Lancer)
    Lancelot (Berserker)
    EMIYA (Archer)

    C Tier:
    Medea (Caster)
    Medusa (Rider)
    Gilles De Rais (Caster)
    Bedivere (Saber)
    Diarmuid (Lancer)
    Astolfo (Rider)
    Kojiro (Assassin)

    D Tier:
    Semiramis (Assassin)
    Hassan (Assassin)
    Jack (Assassin)
    Amakusa Shiro (Ruler)

    E Tier:
    Angra Mainyu (Avenger)
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    shit you work quick.

    I'll get on the top tier real quick and you can work out the high tier then should work as a good link.

    S Tier:
    Gilgamesh, King of Heroes (Archer)
    Solomon, The King of Magic (Grand Caster)
    _
    Scathach (Lancer)
    Vlad III, The Lord Impaler (Lancer) (Transylvania)
    Enkidu (Lancer)
    Arjuna, The Fortunate Hero (Archer)
    Karna, Son of the Sun God (Lancer)
    Cú Chulainn Alter (Berserker)

    A Tier:

    Arturia Pendragon, Alter (Saber)
    Heracles (Berserker)
    Arturia Pendragon, King of Knights (Saber)
    Iskandar, King of Conquerors (Rider)



    To be placed:

    Siegfried (Saber)
    Mordred Pendragon (Saber)
    Jeanne D'Arc (Ruler)
    Cu Chulain (Lancer)
    EMIYA
    (Archer)
    Medusa
    (Rider)
    Diarmud
    (Lancer)
    Lancelot
    (Berserker)
    Medea (Caster)
    Kojiro
    (Assassin)
    Gille de Rais
    (Caster)
    Hassan (Assassin)
    Achilles (Rider)
    Jack (Assassin)
    Semiranis (Assassin)
    Astolfo (Rider)

    Let's work on these for starters... if you have any gripes with my listing so far, let me know.
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    Would Vampire Vlad break into S?

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    I'm including his TLoD buff.
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    Achilles and Chiron in A, right?

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    Achilles I'd actually put a substep above A since he can somewhat match Karna.
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    Couldn't we just make a line to cut A in two, like you did with S?

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    Yeah, we should do that.

    Where would Saver (Buddha) fit? Judging from his NP he's upper S material.

    His Noble Phantasms are the Amita Amitabha and Chakravartin. As with other hypothetical Servants of the Saver class, Saver possesses the class abilities of Charisma; a rare natural talent for commanding armies and it’s said that B rank is enough for even a king. Counter Hero, which imposes a rank-down upon any opponents that classify as 'Heroes' or 'Anti-heroes.'[1]
    Enlightenment of the Sacred Fig (菩提樹の悟り, Bodaijuu no Satori?, localized as Sri Maha Bodhiya), which negates damage and mental interference.[1] However those with Divinity (神性, Shinsei?) skill can break through and defend against this skill.[7] Saver who has attained the EX rank, it should be possible to tranquilly receive even the seven desires of man.[1]
    Combat


    • Samadhi (三昧, ?) - Refers to the state of perfect meditative union. Enhances Saver's attributes, causes Saver's GUARD command to drain MP from the attacker.
    • Dukkha Samudaya (集諦, ?) - The noble truth of suffering's accumulation. Counterattack, deals high damage.
    • Madhyamā-pratipad (中道, ?) - The middle way, moderation in favor of indulgence or mortification. Attribute enhancement, causes Saver's ATTACK command to recover HP.
    • Dukkha (苦諦, ?) - The noble truth that life is full of suffering. Attribute enhancement, causes Saver's BREAK command to stun.
    • Śūnyatā (空虚, ?) - Emptiness, the concept that all things are without absolute identity or permanence. Damage, reduced by having a higher magical energy (魔力, ?) stat.

    Despite his appearance, Saver is skilled in close hand to hand combat. He uses Kalaripayattu (カラリパヤット, Kararipayatto?), the ancient Indian fighting style from which all rationally derived martial arts are descended.

    NP description:
    It is a kind of teaching to achieve final Moksha, where energies rivaling the law of man’s creation are made to converge on a single person and liberate him from suffering. All humans, according to the Indian idea of Brahman, are reincarnations of Brahma and all of humanity is the same individual. It is said that all of mankind will achieve buddhahood once the ideology is embraced because all humans ultimately transmigrate into the Buddha. It differs from normal ideologies of reincarnation and immortality, acting as the “Everyone Becomes Me wheel of reincarnation” that saves all sattva from suffering.

    As the length of human history increases, its expanse becoming wider, the greater the damage of the attack, and the humanity of Earth has no way of withstanding the attack theoretically. It deals damage that no living thing, no human can withstand, but something not alive like Hakuno Kishinami has a small chance of withstanding it because they have yet to be afflicted by the suffering of life or the four noble truths. Those who achieve enlightenment through gaining strong convictions can overcome it. It is weaker against humans who are not quite human, and it cannot completely save individuals of a scale of existence greater than the domain of humanity. Within the game, it is an "absolute game-over attack", but it would cause 5,670,000,000 damage within the context of the game.
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    S for sure I'd say, maybe not quite up there with Gil though.

    Has he fought anyone in S?

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    Sadly no he hasn't though Nero who is about equal to Artoria straight admits her inferniority.

    It is revealed after you beat him (he's the secret boss) that he pretty much spared you and only tried to help his master, Twice, find salvation which happened over the course of the battle.

    Stats:
    Spirit: Buddha
    Master: Twice H. Pieceman
    Alignment: Lawful Neutral
    Strength: A Mana: B
    Endurance: A Luck: B
    Agility: C N. Phantasm: A++
    Class skills:
    Charisma A+
    Counter Hero B
    Personal skills:
    Enlightenment of the Sacred Fig EX
    Kalaripayattu EX
    Noble Phantasms:
    Amita Amitabha Anti-Unit EX
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    Okay fuck it, upper S he goes.

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    Man, remembering Twice made me really sad again.

    I would move Cu up a tier btw.

    Especially due to straight up defeating Emiya and due to how stupid broken Gae Bolg is.
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    Especially due to straight up defeating Emiya and due to how stupid broken Gae Bolg is.
    Cu is above Arturia right?

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    Cu is above Arturia right?
    Naw, he's around Artorias level, probably slightly below it while the latter has Rin. But the comparisons not really fair since Kirei sucks as a master.

    Bazzet!Cu would probably be nigh equal to Rin!Artoria.
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    Naw, he's around Artorias level, probably slightly below it while the latter has Rin. But the comparisons not really fair since Kirei sucks as a master.

    Bazzet!Cu would probably be nigh equal to Rin!Artoria.
    I completely forgot that Cu was gimped due to having Kirei as a master. I remember the drop Gil had when he became Kirei's servant.

    So I take it this tier list puts Rin/Arturia then?

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    I completely forgot that Cu was gimped due to having Kirei as a master. I remember the drop Gil had when he became Kirei's servant.

    So I take it this tier list puts Rin/Arturia then?
    Yeah.

    Well Cu has his Alter version so it's all good for him.
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    Scathach is up there.
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    She would also get horribly beaten by Alter Cu
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    Need an Alter Scathach.
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    Jeanne's only in B?

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